Japanese to English translation - Discussion Thread

[Kanzer]

Reinheart, I'm researching as hard as I can.

A little Tweak will not change how they are played. They were already tweaked and that increased damage output and self heals. Not Front End mitigation.

That's a big hint right there. I'm going to try to max STR and Crit Rate and see where that takes me. Considering that they've buffed self heal through inner beast as well as added a Crit Rate buff (not a damage taken buff that everyone is asking for) then maybe that's where we should start looking.

If the devs are wrong, they're wrong, but first why not try to do things their way and then come back and say "We tried maximizing Strength and damage dealt and self heals and Crit and it's not working."

Not really sure how you're supposed to go about this though, all of your equipment is itemized the exact same as a Paladin's equipment, since it's shared. And the 30 str from attribute bonuses has already been shown to make little difference, if any at all.

So the only way I could see that a warrior can purposely gear for crit is their class specific armor from Mythology tokens, except absolutely none of those pieces adds any crit rating. (Ironically the Paladin armor has three pieces that do.)

Maybe getting Mythology DPS jewelry? Even then, it seems silly and wouldn't make much difference.

Too many contradictions for me to believe they really did the proper research when designing the class.

Though I am very interested to hear your future findings HiirNoivl, I've been following many of your post for information regarding warriors.

[HiirNoivl]

Not really sure how you're supposed to go about this though, all of your equipment is itemized the exact same as a Paladin's equipment, since it's shared. And the 30 str from attribute bonuses has already been shown to make little difference, if any at all.

So the only way I could see that a warrior can purposely gear for crit is their class specific armor from Mythology tokens, except absolutely none of those pieces adds any crit rating. (Ironically the Paladin armor has three pieces that do.)

Please look at my Current gear my Body piece currently has 43 Skill Speed for example. I was testing Skill Speed. HQ darksteel melds are my primary means of testing WAR capabilities, because with melds it can fall outside of the typical, boiler plate tanking gear provided at Revenant's Toll.

As for my results: While Skill Speed is important I think that Crit Rate will be more effective on WAR in the long run. I tested Accuracy on WAR as well with a Acc +43 build. (Fortunately I haven't had nearly as many issues with gil as some others. )

If you have HQ Darksteel it allows you to experiement with many different builds. The same can be said of Rose Gold Accessories and trying out different accessories using easily obtainable Philo Tokens.

Another reason why I feel that raising Crit rate is important: Currently with my stats I should be maxing out at 10 or 11% Crit rate according to the Dancing Mad Calculator. But after conducting a number of tests on Ifrit and Garuda (the most easily available content, sadly Titan Parties rarely last long enough to test) I'm setting at a low of 17% to 20% crit rate over all.

Now, I'm not into it as much as some other folks might be, as much to go out and dig and look at WHY this is happening. But if a WAR crits 20% on a 10% build then I would hope that, if things scale linearly as they often do, then WAR will crit 40% on a 20% build.

[Kanzer]

Please look at my Current gear my Body piece currently has 43 Skill Speed for example. I was testing Skill Speed. HQ darksteel melds are my primary means of testing WAR capabilities, because with melds it can fall outside of the typical, boiler plate tanking gear provided at Revenant's Toll.

As for my results: While Skill Speed is important I think that Crit Rate will be more effective on WAR in the long run. I tested Accuracy on WAR as well with a Acc +43 build. (Fortunately I haven't had nearly as many issues with gil as some others. )

If you have HQ Darksteel it allows you to experiement with many different builds. The same can be said of Rose Gold Accessories and trying out different accessories using easily obtainable Philo Tokens.

Another reason why I feel that raising Crit rate is important: Currently with my stats I should be maxing out at 10 or 11% Crit rate according to the Dancing Mad Calculator. But after conducting a number of tests on Ifrit and Garuda (the most easily available content, sadly Titan Parties rarely last long enough to test) I'm setting at a low of 17% to 20% crit rate over all.

Now, I'm not into it as much as some other folks might be, as much to go out and dig and look at WHY this is happening. But if a WAR crits 20% on a 10% build then I would hope that, if things scale linearly as they often do, then WAR will crit 40% on a 20% build.

While it's true you can get the crafted gear, and it allows for greater customization, it requires a great deal of time, effort, and money in order to do this. And this just means a Paladin could put in just as much effort, and still be leagues more efficient.

The fact that you need to go through this much effort just to become as efficient as a paladin in darklight/mythology/allagan gear is a problem in itself. I respect your desire and dedication to do this, but it isn't right to be required to.