Japanese to English translation - Discussion Thread

[Keres]

I actually do see the benefits of not being able to select how many you can buy. Of course, the buyer draws the shorter straw in this system, but for seller it gives so many other options to sell your stuff instead of just undercutting more than others, at least for stackable items. You can for example sell a full stack of items cheaper, and ask a bit more for single items / smaller batches. I suppose the system has been mainly thought from sellers' side because in any case as buyer you have to pay more, but it also keeps the economy somewhat in check by allowing proper competition between sellers when there's other options than just undercutting.

Yep, just think of it like Costco or other bulk retailers. You can buy only the quantity you need right now, but pay more for them, or buy in bulk and likely pay less.

[Reinheart]

What do you think Rein? Did the response you got on Twitter from Foxclon hint at any possibility of the adjustment? Or was like "No way, no adjustments are coming!" Or was it like "No, Yoshi was not saying we will adjust WAR at that time."

I didn't see any type of hint that WAR is getting any type of adjustment at all from Foxclon's response on Twitter.
He was just confirming nothing about adjustments was said during TGS.

Devs should just give some type of hint if players are really not doing something right. I'm thinking the players pretty much tried everything possible with the cross class combinations and Marauder/Warrior actions, so either devs got super hack mode or the development program has some type of adjustment that's not in our version or something... lol If their response is that Warriors need more gear requirements than PLD, then personally that's not a good answer.

[HiirNoivl]

I'm doing my very best with it at this time. But sheer pressure makes me give up and go PLD.

Even if WAR is good enough, the stigma and stink about it is so bad, it's putting too much of a burden on players and taking away from the enjoyment of the game.

[Tronic]

I'm doing my very best with it at this time. But sheer pressure makes me give up and go PLD.

Even if WAR is good enough, the stigma and stink about it is so bad, it's putting too much of a burden on players and taking away from the enjoyment of the game.

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[Reinheart]

I'm doing my very best with it at this time. But sheer pressure makes me give up and go PLD.

Even if WAR is good enough, the stigma and stink about it is so bad, it's putting too much of a burden on players and taking away from the enjoyment of the game.

I play WAR but my wife as WHM hates it, she says she needs to heal more than when I'm running as a PLD.
I don't like playing PLD, WAR feels so much better for me >< Still stuck on Chimera for my Bravura... need to find a group for it... lol /sigh

[HiirNoivl]

Tell her I said to stop curing you until you learn to mitigate better. :P

[Reinheart]

Tell her I said to stop curing you until you learn to mitigate better. :P

I did tell her to stop curing me till I'm below half, and she claims if she do that I'll get squashed like a bug... /sigh

[Rivienne]

I know I have said this before, but I am beginning to think that I must be missing something, or maybe I have just never played with a really good PLD, because in my experience the good WAR I have come across are better than any other tank I have come across. I have yet to come across a PLD that I thought was as good, yet I come across far more PLD than WAR, so statistically that doesn't make sense to me unless the role itself is better. I see it like this: WAR > PLD > GLD > MRD

And I am playing as a WHM and just go by how easy the fight is for me personally. I wouldn't mind looking at raw numbers outside of game, but subjectively ignoring the numbers, I don't understand what the problem is or why other WHM seem to have a problem with warriors. This whole debate is just confusing to me because it doesn't fit with my own experiences at all.

Just checking if you got another alt character with lv50, the main stuff about PLD vs WAR stuff comes in at lv50 dungeons.
I haven't done Bahamut's Coil myself but I keep on reading that PLD's are much easier to manage.

I have lots and lots and lots of alts! But I haven't gotten into the end game content grind because I am trying to avoid.. Certain types of people.. It will probably be another 4 weeks before I dive into the fray, even though I could do it right now if I wanted to. (I got locked out of behemoth for most of the first 3 weeks during 1017 issues so my main has sadly lagged far far behind my JP lala. working to fix that now.)

Even so, I don't see how a role suddenly stops being as good between level 49 and level 50. It just doesn't make sense to me.....

[Reinheart]

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Just checking if you got another alt character with lv50, the main stuff about PLD vs WAR stuff comes in at lv50 dungeons.
I haven't done Bahamut's Coil myself but I keep on reading that PLD's are much easier to manage.

I have lots and lots and lots of alts! But I haven't gotten into the end game content grind because I am trying to avoid.. Certain types of people.. It will probably be another 4 weeks before I dive into the fray, even though I could do it right now if I wanted to. (I got locked out of behemoth for most of the first 3 weeks during 1017 issues so my main has sadly lagged far far behind my JP lala. working to fix that now.)

Even so, I don't see how a role suddenly stops being as good between level 49 and level 50. It just doesn't make sense to me.....

I think WAR's role doesn't get bad, it's just the enemy gets much much stronger and when you compare a WAR and PLD in exact same gear PLD makes it easier for the WHM's. If I can I want to keep on doing end game with WAR but reading lots of stuff on this forums makes me think that I should probably gear up for my PLD before WAR... (For relic I said hell no to that... and took Bravura quest... and now stuck LOL...)

[Gilthas]

I just had an epiphany.

Maybe the developers say that Warriors are strong because when they test the content all the developers suck at playing as Paladins!

More seriously though: I'm far from endgame content but I was wondering, do Warriors still do more damage than Paladins even when they have Defiance up and the Paladins have Shield Oath up? Woud be kind of sad if in those conditions Paladins did more damage.