Japanese to English translation - Discussion Thread

[Eekiki]

Miqote's Buttocks was sacrificed in order to deliver everyone better looking gear designs in the future.

What bothers me about this is even though our thread was going for weeks and weeks, the devs didn't bother to respond to it until one of us posted about it in the JP forums. Once the JPs got in on the conversation, the devs finally issued a statement.

I'm starting to think we need a "Reverse Reinheart" who will translate the more active feedback posts from the NA forums for the JP folks. Since Japanese culture is all about being super polite and saying "it can't be helped", I think what happened here was since EmiliM reposted the main butt thread in the JP forum, they felt more comfortable giving feedback on it.

[Soukyuu]

I'm starting to think we need a "Reverse Reinheart" who will translate the more active feedback posts from the NA forums for the JP folks.

Isn't that what the reps are doing though? It does take a while for them to process the mass of QQ posts and gather those questions who are worth asking. Then there is translating, going through official channels and all...

Sure, someone could just post the same thing on the JP side and hope it reaches the devs faster that way...

[Eekiki]

Isn't that what the reps are doing though? It does take a while for them to process the mass of QQ posts and gather those questions who are worth asking. Then there is translating, going through official channels and all...

Sure, someone could just post the same thing on the JP side and hope it reaches the devs faster that way...

Yeah (supposedly). But what the reps aren't doing is making our feedback known to the JP community and bringing them in on our conversations. I think that would go a long way in helping the devs get a better understanding on the issues at hand.

[ashikenshin]

The translation reinhart skipped because it would cause an uproar, can you guys at least point to which post is that. I will use google translator and keep it to myself. But the curiosity is killing me

[Eekiki]

The translation reinhart skipped because it would cause an uproar, can you guys at least point to which post is that. I will use google translator and keep it to myself. But the curiosity is killing me

Reinheart has translations and translations in progress on his Google Drive.

[Rivienne]

The translation reinhart skipped because it would cause an uproar, can you guys at least point to which post is that. I will use google translator and keep it to myself. But the curiosity is killing me

He did translate it, he just didn't point it out. "Mid-October"... It has shifted again. Looks like the JP comments to the thread immediately picked up on that and were very much "first it was mid September, then it was early October, now it is mid-October.. "

Ah. People get so worked up about it.

Me I just re-roll a new character on a new server. The limit is 40 right? So why not actually roll each one on a different world! Haha. All your friend bases covered. And absolutely zero time left for anything else.

[ashikenshin]

ah, I thought it was going to be something more controversial. I don't care about server transfers so I guess I just skimmed that part. Thx for the heads up though

[ArkhamNative]

I'm starting to think we need a "Reverse Reinheart" who will translate the more active feedback posts from the NA forums for the JP folks. Since Japanese culture is all about being super polite and saying "it can't be helped", I think what happened here was since EmiliM reposted the main butt thread in the JP forum, they felt more comfortable giving feedback on it.

Well, this sort of happened today on the forums. There were accounts that were suspended for a week, then declared innocent, yet had fully 99% of their gil confiscated by SE. They have been wanting explanations (and rightly so, imho). Reportedly even the suspend/reinstate emails have had blank as reasons.

Although my Japanese is only as good as Google Translate, there doesn't seem to be discussion on that side about it. So someone did actually post in what he called "semi-broken Japanese" to make a request for clarification. (FYI: English post about JP post here.)

Anyway, back to the topic, I would hope that any person who does post EN issues would understand fully well the Japanese culture so that questions can be asked without rudeness or causing offense.

[Reinheart]

One thread that worked well with that one was 1-50 in one zone thread I translated in 1.0 for that threads OP. Sadly I don't think that guy plays the game no more, unless he started a new character.

But yeah I did couple reverse translations in the past, it does get JP communities attention but at same time I don't know if I should even be doing it, I don't want to cause any trouble. The current translation stuff might be causing enough problems ><

@Arkham Yep been watching those threads, wanted to say something but been keeping quiet on that one. Personally if they are really legit players, I feel it's not right on what happened, like I understand why it needed to be done, but at least there should be some type of official explanation to those players. Just being quiet about it and making them wait seems to be wrong, also depending on how you respond to that thread it could cause people to get angry so I understand how they need to be careful about it. Also it's a bit weird how they punished them but did it wrong, took money away from their characters, yet left the money on retainers. So what if the retainers had 90% of it... w (I'm just assuming here from what I read.)

[EmiliM]

I don't think the Japanese community minds the crossover discussions. I mean, for the most part, the Japanese player base is almost exactly like the one here, you have your angry trolls and white knights there just as we do here, they just bicker in a different, somewhat more polite language. :/ And chances are that whatever the English players are having issues with, the JP players are as well and have probably already made a thread about it (the butt thread being a rare exception ). I think it does help that there are probably more devs actively checking the JP threads though.