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  1. #281
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    Maximus Legatus
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    Your most powerful combo for Black Mage would be: (Must have Astra Fire III, Firestarter proc) Use Quelling Strikes > Raging Strikes > Flare > Fire 3 > Convert > Swiftcast > Flare > Tranpose. This combo will do between 3.5k to 5k damage in total depend on critical.

    Also you should use Flare at the end of your rotation when you about to run out on mp then just Tranpose. Learn to use Flare people it's your most powerful spell and can critical for more than 2k damage.
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  2. #282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huy View Post
    Also you should use Flare at the end of your rotation when you about to run out on mp then just Tranpose. Learn to use Flare people it's your most powerful spell and can critical for more than 2k damage.
    It's only worth using if your CDs are up, using Flare after every single fire cycle would be stupid since then you would have to ramp up from Umbral ice I again.

    It's always preferable to maintain your Astral Fire III and Umbral Ice III up at all times unless your CDs (Raging strikes, Swifcast, etc.) are up.
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  3. #283
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    Sparda Amon
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    Yes Flare is our strongest spell and can crit for some absurd numbers. However, it is only good if all your CDs are up at the end of fire 2 spam (Turn 4, Phase 3 as prime example). I personally use it a lot in the correct situation and rarely would I use it against a single target. Mind I also remind you in Coil, if flare crit under raging strike effect, no tank in the world going to save you.

    I usually yell at my Tank "Casting first flare, Tank Cover me pl0x", if I'm lucky I will be able to finish them off with the second flare b4 I have 4 angry bugs that want to shred me to pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    feel free to correct me:

    Swiftcast + Fire III
    Don't waste such an useful skill (Swiftcast) with Fire III. Use it to double Flare instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    Don't waste such an useful skill (Swiftcast) with Fire III. Use it to double Flare instead.
    This, Swiftcast should never, ever be used with Thunder 3 or Fire 3. It is reserved for double Flare under Astral Fire 3, Raging strike, and if you feel that you want to step up the game add mega int potion in the mix.

    Beside get in the habit of using Thunder 3 in Coil, buy your tank some time b4 going crazy on Disposal node (turn 2) or the soldiers (turn 4). I find Thunder 3 long cast and very low threat quite useful in Coil.
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    Jim Bridger
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    I seem to be the only one that doesn't agree with the current BLM rotation, I even spread sheeted it, and I still find Fire 3 to be superior to Fire 1. I have also out parced black mages that use the standard rotation.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwJf...it?usp=sharing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelulish View Post
    I seem to be the only one that doesn't agree with the current BLM rotation, I even spread sheeted it, and I still find Fire 3 to be superior to Fire 1. I have also out parced black mages that use the standard rotation.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwJf...it?usp=sharing
    Will test in Coil after reset from Turn 1 to 4 and report back.
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    Gio Nazzo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelulish View Post
    I seem to be the only one that doesn't agree with the current BLM rotation, I even spread sheeted it, and I still find Fire 3 to be superior to Fire 1. I have also out parced black mages that use the standard rotation.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwJf...it?usp=sharing
    Might want to check your spreadsheet again. Two 1.66 cast time Fire 3's after each Bliz 3?
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  9. #289
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    Yes, if you cast them fast enough you can get a second cast in, probably a bug, but you definitely can.
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    Last edited by Jelulish; 10-07-2013 at 05:03 PM.

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    Melian Eorlia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelulish View Post
    Yes, if you cast them fast enough you can get a second cast in, probably a bug, but you definitely can.
    I can't see in your sheet any instant Fire III with the Fire I rotation, which is his only purpose, instant casting Fire III without mana.
    It's a 40% proc, huge !

    I think we should try the two rotation on dummy with the log parser during ~15mn each.
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