BLM

[LetBloodline]

if i have to go AOE (3 or more mobs and group going for AOE as well) then i just stik with fire 3 as starter then fire 2 and finish with flare, by that time, since probably all the group is doing AOE trash dungeon mobs are dead or pretty much. If we left few mobs i go for blizzard 3 after first tik or after convert otherwise, if mobs are not AOE spammers i can get close to use blizzard 2 until full of mana then go back to step one =o

[mpetason]

I'm confused here

How come you get full mana by the time you cast thunder 2 and i need the time for thunder 3 plus 1,5 sec to cast fire3?
There must be a difference somewhere. Any ideas about where it is? You enter umbral phase with much more mana then me?
Or you are making calculation when bard with mana regen song is near?

How close are you to the boss? Blizzard 3 > Thunder 2 > Fire 3 > I usually see 2/3 ticks of Umbral and I'm back to full. If you are far enough away, max range, you might even get another tick before your Fire 3 hits and you get Astral 3. I'm not using cast time buffs or anything and it is usually the same regardless of bard.

[mpetason]

what rotation u guys use for adds on bosses? fire 2 stacked? i mean an aoe rotation

On Garuda I like to save Swiftcast + Flare. As soon as the text comes up I'll swiftcast + flare and the feathers are at half health. You could end up > (in astral 3) Swiftcast > Flare > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Fire 3 > Flare. But that would only be useful if the adds stay stacked.

[Coephoros]

I am thinking that the missing factor here is spell speed? T3 during Umbral very rarely allows enough time for me to regen to full.

[Zeckz]

On Garuda I like to save Swiftcast + Flare. As soon as the text comes up I'll swiftcast + flare and the feathers are at half health. You could end up > (in astral 3) Swiftcast > Flare > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Fire 3 > Flare. But that would only be useful if the adds stay stacked.

This works really well if there's another BLM with you who's doing Freeze/Blizz2. Locks down the adds just long enough that you're likely to hit them all with 2 flares, which wrecks them. If I'm the only BLM, then I tend to be more conservative and use Freeze/Blizz2 and hope that the other dps can AE the clump.

[Marichella]

can someone update the first post with all the possibilities for the rotation? ^^

[iqz3ro]

basically the rotation is in debate vs using thunder II or thunder III for the rotation. so i think it's:

thunder II(III), fireIII, fire -> mana down to like 5-600ish-> blizIII -> thunder -> fireIII -> fire ---- etc

i use thunderIII>II because... the spell looks way hella cooler than thunder II :P

[Teranis]

Maybe I'm misreading the thunder 2 and 3 tooltips but it looks to me if you were to use thunder 2 in your rotation your thundercloud procs will be nerfed at thunder 2's potency no matter which thunder you use.

[Nhymb13]

Maybe I'm misreading the thunder 2 and 3 tooltips but it looks to me if you were to use thunder 2 in your rotation your thundercloud procs will be nerfed at thunder 2's potency no matter which thunder you use.

Yeah I am a little confused also lol

[Teloc]

This is what I do for my rotation.

Thunder 1 -> Fire III -> Fire 1 spam til low -> Blizzard III -> Repeat

I toss in Fire III and thunder III when I get a proc. I don't drop my thunder dot since I run out of mana within the 18 seconds of the Thunder 1 dot.

If i cast T1 or T3 and use thundercloud on T3 it hits for the same. So T1 for hardcasting T3 for proc. If you T3 on the pull you will be short 1 fire spell you could have used.