BLM

[Jelulish]

There is a flaw in your rotation 1. After the second Blizzard III you are not reapplying Thunder, cause it's probably still up. But you are casting Fire III right after. there is no way you'll be at full MP without waiting a bit though. can't cast 4 Fire III without full MP. Also that "faster casting bug" works for the first Fire I as well, when going from Umbral to Astral.

Your first rotation will end up with around 244DPS and the other around 256DPS.

I did originally have it in, but I took it out because i thought it was not fair to count that damage because it would not fully tick out. I guess I could put it back in with the partial ticks. Either way, just using Fire 3 vs fire 1 with fire 3 procs is only 5% is if your calc is correct, or mine. A slightly noticeable difference I guess but not as big as everyone seems to make it out to be.

[NeoAmon]

I did originally have it in, but I took it out because i thought it was not fair to count that damage because it would not fully tick out. I guess I could put it back in with the partial ticks. Either way, just using Fire 3 vs fire 1 with fire 3 procs is only 5% is if your calc is correct, or mine. A slightly noticeable difference I guess but not as big as everyone seems to make it out to be.

Yeah I tested it extensively....and in short you are absolutely wrong.

Here is how I tested it:

1- Went to AK with equally geared BLM.
2- We both agreed on using the same exact rotation until the first boss (bliz 3 > Thunder 3 > Fire 3 > Fire 1 spam and use Thundercloud and Fire starter).
3- We both did 111k.
4- After killing the first boss I switched to your method until the second boss, while he used the exact same normal rotation.

The end result was ugly I did 16k less damage than him. I have also tested it on Turn 1 and same result I preformed poorly when I'm used to be the top DD in my Coil group.

[Satori-ken]

Hi, i need help deciding on which class to play.
I know both are perfectly viable, and it's about "what i want to play", i'm not looking for which one is OP or FOTM, just undecided and got one to 20 and another one to 16, so, what would YOU play and why?
Thanks!

[Jelulish]

Hi, i need help deciding on which class to play.
I know both are perfectly viable, and it's about "what i want to play", i'm not looking for which one is OP or FOTM, just undecided and got one to 20 and another one to 16, so, what would YOU play and why?
Thanks!

I play black mage because I like mages. I have played mages in all major MMO's and they are my preferred class to play. I like black mage over summoner because it is an instant satisfaction job, meaning I can see my dps and big numbers right away. I also don't like being dependent on a pet. From the numbers I have seen the summoner's pet is roughly 20-25% of their total damage. They die sometimes and then you are gimped. However, that being said, any fight with movement summoner has an advantage because in theory the only thing that stops their dps in human error or a phase shift with the mob being immune. BLM=big numbers BOOM, Summoner small numbers that add up

[Madrone]

Most likely needed to unlock BLM job: ACN 15
BLM can cross class skills from ACN & ARC

[Torian]

((Disclaimer: I played in 1.0 beta and 1.0 release, but not in the last two years, so this is basically an entirely new game for me))


What about Blood for Blood (LNC 34) and Internal Release (PGL 12), which both state they have affinity with THM/BLM? That's another 20% damage AND crit....

Then maybe Bloodbath (MRD 8) for an "oh sh*t" heal/damage turnaround. Or am I missing something here that makes these seemingly obvious choices flawed?

[Madrone]

((Disclaimer: I played in 1.0 beta and 1.0 release, but not in the last two years, so this is basically an entirely new game for me))


What about Blood for Blood (LNC 34) and Internal Release (PGL 12), which both state they have affinity with THM/BLM? That's another 20% damage AND crit....

Then maybe Bloodbath (MRD 8) for an "oh sh*t" heal/damage turnaround. Or am I missing something here that makes these seemingly obvious choices flawed?

Where are you seeing this? Those can be used by THM of course, but not BLM.

[Sagacyte]

First of all, thanks for the guide!

Glad to know ACN is the second class required for BLM. I was under the impression that the second class was PUG in 1.0, and that honestly made no sense

Really looking forward to the high level spells, rotations, etc. As a former WoW rogue - a class with a lot of theorycrafters - I'm excited to begin as a THM/BLM in ARR and eventually study the class to be better!

[Torian]

If you can only pull from two classes for additional abilities... Lancer and Archer seem to be where it's at... combining their abilities gives you 40% extra damage (Blood for Blood and Raging strikes, respectively ((if they stack)), on a three minute cool down and an emnity mitigation ability (Quelling strikes) that will prevent the 25% extra damage taken from "Blood for Blood" from making you a drooling puddle of arcane punching bag.

[Sandkat]

If you can only pull from two classes for additional abilities... Lancer and Archer seem to be where it's at... combining their abilities gives you 40% extra damage (Blood for Blood and Raging strikes, respectively ((if they stack)), on a three minute cool down and an emnity mitigation ability (Quelling strikes) that will prevent the 25% extra damage taken from "Blood for Blood" from making you a drooling puddle of arcane punching bag.

For THM (or any base class): You can pull from ANY other base class.

For BLM (or any JOB): You can only pull from 2 specific classes.

I don't understand why you would start with B3 under any circumstance except starting a fight OOM.

B3 kicks in immediate Umbral 3 followed up by Thunder 3 for dot ticks (Thundercloud proc chances) while keeping your MP at full. Then its into the Fire 3 (Full Astral) -> Fire 1