Why does everything take so long?

[Nuru]

I can't even remember what this thread was originally about. And we're only on page 5....

Anyway, point is, it was impressive that he did that in 5 hours. Yes, it's not a fully functioning AH but he did THAT in 5 hours. Like I previously said, not even a full day at the office in Japan. (Or majority of the world).
All I'm saying is... it's taking unexpectedly long. That's all. Not just talking about the AH, but everything in general. I know they aren't gods so things can't just happen. But in my opinion, their focus is sort of... in the wrong direction. I mean all this talk about jumping? If that's what SE is going to focus on.... when so much other more important things need work? really...
I guess we have to take into consideration the natural disasters in Japan though. We can't deny it, but that WILL and HAS effected the development, I'm sure.

You realize why they haven't released one yet?

First of all, they have other things to work on, any delay what-so-ever is frowned upon, especially by all the babies we have on the forums.

Secondly, We have something similar to an AH called the Market Wards. Yes and we do realize that it is not an AH, but holy crap people! Hold your horses!

Its crap like this that is holding them back because they now have to analyze what they should and shouldn't implement. If we all took a break from complaining about the same thing over and over again, maybe they'd have more time to get something done rather than listen to a bunch of bickering.

[Suirieko]

Well, I'm impressed that a college kid, in his spare time, was able to knock out a shell of an AH in 5 hours... I mean, hey, if he can do it in 5 hours... how long is it going to take a professional to do it? Either way, no excuse not to have an AH in the game.

Reviews will be awful if they 're-release' without an AH... again.

Anyway, point is, it was impressive that he did that in 5 hours. Yes, it's not a fully functioning AH but he did THAT in 5 hours. Like I previously said, not even a full day at the office in Japan. (Or majority of the world).

That's just it. It's a very small part of the whole system. then there's the fact that it has to be repeated for each and every server (there are at least 18, along with any testing servers they may have!). Auction House isn't something that can be made quickly, let alone even necessary, there are tons of other projects to work on that should have more priority than the AH.

[Wolfie]

The real kicker is that they already have amot everything in place. Market wards is a few tweaks away from being an ah. They have their databases set up, they have the transaction system set up, they have the ui almost done. The only thing they would have to do is remove the extra layer of indirection of retainers.

[Paksenarrion]

You realize why they haven't released one yet?

First of all, they have other things to work on, any delay what-so-ever is frowned upon, especially by all the babies we have on the forums.

Secondly, We have something similar to an AH called the Market Wards. Yes and we do realize that it is not an AH, but holy crap people! Hold your horses!

Its crap like this that is holding them back because they now have to analyze what they should and shouldn't implement. If we all took a break from complaining about the same thing over and over again, maybe they'd have more time to get something done rather than listen to a bunch of bickering.

Like I said, wasn't just talking about the AH. In fact, that's of low importance to me. Couldn't really care less. I quite like the market wards, and I probably prefer it over the AH anyway. I haven't said anything that I believe can count as complaining. I simply said that it's taking unexpectedly long but that there are other things that factor into the time line. And the example I gave was the natural disasters in Japan.

[Elexia]

So you're telling me that an MMO AH would be radically different than either of those websites? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the code involved in those websites are far more complex than an MMO AH.

Look, if it's not difficult for a thousand other MMOs to have an AH... then it shouldn't be difficult for a multi-billion dollar company to get one done in a week.

No one said it was difficult, it's just not "a day's work", all MMOs I play their AH's are exactly the same, some with more features (like Search: [ enter item name (ID) here...) ]) or lack some features (specific armor categories only being displayed by "Armor" instead of Armor > Dropdown > Head, Body etc.)

Also it would be different because compared to a website, you're incorporating interactivity with a video game, which said websites basically pull certain information at a small delay (with certain features) because it can't 100% read the game's handling of said information with utmost optimization.

[Suirieko]

So you're telling me that an MMO AH would be radically different than either of those websites? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the code involved in those websites are far more complex than an MMO AH.

Look, if it's not difficult for a thousand other MMOs to have an AH... then it shouldn't be difficult for a multi-billion dollar company to get one done in a week.

All the websites do is to list the items, and the price of each items, from each server. All FFXIAH.com does is to simply scan the game's Auction house history, and each items, and list it. There can't be any player interaction with it other than just...listing it, and it is stored on the site. The game does much more than that, and requires much more work than that.

[Suirieko]

The real kicker is that they already have amot everything in place. Market wards is a few tweaks away from being an ah. They have their databases set up, they have the transaction system set up, they have the ui almost done. The only thing they would have to do is remove the extra layer of indirection of retainers.

You could do it that way, and thus lead to more unnecessary work, or just...allow players to buy it directly from the search itself (which I believe is in the works to boot!), and thus we still get to keep our Market Wards, and you get your pseudo Auction House. EVERYONE WINS! Charlie sheen would approve this!

[Paksenarrion]

Charlie sheen would approve this!

lol. *thumbs up*

[Ostia]

People also like to believe nothing takes time.

Indeed, for example the people that like to believe that it has not been 1 year since alpha ..... yet nothing to show for it lol

[Kaedan]

This is one guy doing this in 5 hours, you mean to tell me if the SE devs divided up the work and really REEEALLY wanted to they couldnt give us a functioning AH in a week? I think they could. Blizzard would be able to do it.

Even though I'm not a fan of Blizzard, I have to say. I agree. This one dude did this much in 5 hours. That's not even a full day at work in Japan.

You're assuming they want to add an AH. Note how they've said, "they'll consider adding an AH".