I'm willing to compromise with hardcore players. I just don't understand why someone would want to spend hours a day playing an online game. I have a job, family, friends, and a girlfriend. 1-3 hours a day is about all I want to spend. I should be able to make reasonable progress that's all I'm saying
I do see your point to a degree, to be able to gain something, keeping rl in keeps (lets not be silly about this, we all need rl more than online).

I think the point of discussion here tho is to not fall into the trap of making everything available at the click of a finger. Even as a casual gamer, im sure you'd at least like to make some effort in a game. If no effort was required, you may as well click a subscreen.

However, i do not agree in (silly example) 18 hours a day minimum to finish the game. some medium is needed, and with the leve system, i do honestly believe this can be accomplished

Kimiko x