Stop working on FFXIV.

[chime85]

Quote Originally Posted by chime85 View Post
I have a lighter at hand, now only if i can send it via the internet hehe
*wonders if it's possible to burn the internet*

Darn, you saw through my web of plans lol

Defenition of troll:
"One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue."

Now if the OP was "this game sucks. scrap it. i hate it. wow is better anyway. start over." that would be trolling. Like I previously mentioned, maybe the explanation is lacking but that doesn't make someone a troll. Just bad at explaining. Why not ask them to elaborate instead of throwing out the word troll? Ask instead "well what sort of ideas do you have to further the game if they halt the development of the current FFXIV?"

to me, this is a troll, someone who flys off negativity without any effort to expand.

Why not ask them to elaborate instead of throwing out the word troll? Ask instead "well what sort of ideas do you have to further the game if they halt the development of the current FFXIV?"

That Is asking him to elaborate. He stated, "star ffxiv from scratch". I have (and others have to) asked him to elebaorate. to input what HIS changes would be. He has given nothing.

From this, time and time again, many (inc myself) have come to the conclusion he is trolling. He is willing to display his disatisfation (which is fine, I am not desputing that at all), but not giving anything to grow on that. He has yet to display any vision or advancement on his demands. Simple, he demands "this be done, that isnt right". He refuses to listen to different standpoints on his own topics (even those that support him, tell me, how many times has he shown you favor in you defending him) He knows that what he says will create discomfort, but he says it regardless.

starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers

Tbh, I personaly like you. throughout your threads you have given a cohearent and understandanding argument. This is something which is very needed on these threads. Thankyou for giving honest feedback . However, you are in the minority (i am saddened to say). You say Grimm has difficulty expressing himself, why is that so? My personal opinions on this, is that he gets a bug in his bonnet, shouts, then has no idea what to do next. From this, he continues his rants, refusing to back down from his original point (which was lielkly made from a slight upset ingame)

Wishing you well Paksenarrion ,

Kimiko x

[Paksenarrion]

Darn, you saw through my web of plans lol



to me, this is a troll, someone who flys off negativity without any effort to expand.



That Is asking him to elaborate. He stated, "star ffxiv from scratch". I have (and others have to) asked him to elebaorate. to input what HIS changes would be. He has given nothing.

From this, time and time again, many (inc myself) have come to the conclusion he is trolling. He is willing to display his disatisfation (which is fine, I am not desputing that at all), but not giving anything to grow on that. He has yet to display any vision or advancement on his demands. Simple, he demands "this be done, that isnt right". He refuses to listen to different standpoints on his own topics (even those that support him, tell me, how many times has he shown you favor in you defending him) He knows that what he says will create discomfort, but he says it regardless.



Tbh, I personaly like you. throughout your threads you have given a cohearent and understandanding argument. This is something which is very needed on these threads. Thankyou for giving honest feedback . However, you are in the minority (i am saddened to say). You say Grimm has difficulty expressing himself, why is that so? My personal opinions on this, is that he gets a bug in his bonnet, shouts, then has no idea what to do next. From this, he continues his rants, refusing to back down from his original point (which was lielkly made from a slight upset ingame)

Wishing you well Paksenarrion ,

Kimiko x

Lol. Thanks. That's really nice of you to say.
I'm basing how I know he has difficulty explaining on the fact that I know him in real life. Lol. (Real well in fact, fiance). So I know for a fact he's not trolling and is usually very open to discussing. Just has difficulty explaining himself. Although I try to be unbiased here while posting and have told him to apologize for his OP that lacked explanation. But he's just as stubborn as he is lacking at explaining things.

On a side note, the forum has become this...mass fight. Where everyone name calls each other rather than try and discuss and debate. Sadly, I don't think any forum exists anymore that doesn't have name calling. It's the ugly side to forums. Although sometimes, rarely, (and it becomes like a jewel you just want to hold onto) amazing threads happen where people discuss productively. So I really appreciate your replies to what I've said without resorting to calling me names. The fact that you calmly give your opinion and why you think that way just shows that you're one of the few people here that belong to the minority group as well.

Wishing you well too Kimiko.