Forum posting restrictions

[Delsus]

I thought I would get this out of the way now, and hope for an explanation as to why these restrictions are in place, or to get them removed.

For this I refer you to the "Forum Design and Features post http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post1015217

In paticular I refer you to the section entitled "Thread creation and forum posts and maximum character limit.

For a start I will say I agree with restricting new users, as they are more likely to either break the rules or spam (no offence intended) however the restrictions across the board are extremely strict, especially for a subscription based game, in which you can control who logs on based on their subscription status.

I believe a better restriction will be Level 5-25 characters are unable to make threads, and they can make 10 posts per day and above that they are unrestricted, because people over level 25, and still subscribing are more likely to be serious about the game and not make mindless spam.

The 15 minute cooldown on posts, was already reduced on the beta forum, meaning Square Enix also agreed that was too high, I personally don't see a need for it if only people with an active service account can log in.

I would also like the character limit removing, as it can be difficult to put together a decent well detailed post in 1000 characters.

All of these restrictions are unnecessary and just impede communication in the community, and with this being a community based game this communication out of game can be important.

Yes the beta forum needed restrictions because things were getting out of hand, however this was only close to the end (when there were masses of people in, who will not be playing the game) however when a forum will be restricted to allow only people with an active service account more restrictions are just unnecessary.

I know you don't need to explain yourselves to players, however with restrictions this strict, which I have not seen beyond these forums and the beta forums, I think an explanation is a reasonable request.

This post came out at 2258 characters, and it would be physically impossible to explain it in less than 1000, which I think is proof of my point when I say the restrictions do nothing but impede the communication of the community.

[Duuude007]

Some people still don't seem to get why beta forums restricted forum post size.

If you cannot say it within 1000 characters, it is very often either:

• Not worth saying.
• Too verbose and full of fluff to be worth reading.

This made it important for people to get to the point, else rethink the need of said post. (re:duplicate topics)

^the above post used 355 characters.

[Delsus]

Some people still don't seem to get why beta forums restricted forum post size.

If you cannot say it within 1000 characters, it is very often either:

• Not worth saying.
• Too verbose and full of fluff to be worth reading.

This made it important for people to get to the point, else rethink the need of said post. (re:duplicate topics)

^the above post used 355 characters.

I understand why the beta forum was restricted, we basically had a job to do, whilst this forum is mostly a discussion forum about the game, not designed for bug reports and feedback, they didn't even have to give us a general discussion forum in beta, but they did, you also forget that due to the need for an active main character when you log on, we will get much less of the spam already because of that.

Let's not forget we won't have as many people as beta, and most people on here will want to play the game, rather than spam the forum with "I'm not playing because it has a sub."

*snip*

Also let's not forget that quotes are included in the 1000 character limit so expect a mass of this, (used Jinko as an example, no offence) making the communication even worse (when people are just too lazy to click on the link to the quoted posts.)

[Azimov]

Also let's not forget that quotes are included in the 1000 character limit so expect a mass of this, (used Jinko as an example, no offence) making the communication even worse (when people are just too lazy to click on the link to the quoted posts.)

People often block quote an entire post to respond to a single point, or just to carry on a conversation.
It is lazy and bad practice, and I am all for more concise quoting, rather than reams of pointless text.

[ogopogo]

Some people still don't seem to get why beta forums restricted forum post size.

If you cannot say it within 1000 characters, it is very often either:

• Not worth saying.
• Too verbose and full of fluff to be worth reading.

This made it important for people to get to the point, else rethink the need of said post. (re:duplicate topics)

^the above post used 355 characters.

Yes, god forbid anyone tries discuss lore and game mechanic or for that matter any topic that would most likely require more than 1000 characters to have a meaningful discussion, and who in their right mind would ever attempt to do any sort of creative writing on these forums. Seriously, just because you don't need more than 1000 characters to "get the point across" doesn't mean others would feel the same way especially when there's such a diversity of sub-forum here. While the restriction makes sense on the beta forum I find it absolutely ridiculous to use the same restriction here.

[Dungin]

I agree with your post here. A lot of the times people will write a wall of text, and then TL;DR it at the end in a succinct paragraph or two. Why not just post the TL;DR and call it good?

[Jinko]

In 1.0 we had to be a paying customer to access the sites I wonder if they plan to remove this restriction and put another one in place. aka the new restrictions.

I am fine with the lay out of restrictions but would think 1 post per level per day would be more suitable.

[Shikiseki]

Actually, I agree with the OP.
Not only that it heavily restricts users to contribute to the forums to begin with but this will either push users to hit lv 50 quickly or not use the forum at all.
I think as the game will progress, mostly the Gameplay, Classes&Jobs and Community forums will suffer from it quite a bit.

And with that, I kindly used my second post, once another interesting thread appears, I have only one post to go for the whole day. Quite ridiculous for a community board ¯x¯

EDIT: Many newcomers probably used 3 posts already out of joy today and can't even give a feedback to this post limit today. Oh irony~ xD

[ArcAurora]

This post came out at 2258 characters, and it would be physically impossible to explain it in less than 1000, which I think is proof of my point when I say the restrictions do nothing but impede the communication of the community.

While I agree that these restrictions are pretty harsh, this argument simply does not stand.

You have made suggestions about posting and character limits, primarily. You haven't followed the forum guidelines which ask for topics to each have their own thread. We would have much more concise feedback if this thread was dedicated to one or the other, not both, and definitely not the broad spectrum of "Forum posting restrictions".

Guidelines: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Suggestions%21

[Delsus]

*snip* 1k char limit

They were both based on the restrictions on posting which SE themselves have grouped into one thread called "Forum Design and Features" therefore it is justified having them in the same thread when both issues can be grouped under the same heading, if I have broken the forum guidelines, I suggest you report this thread made by Gildrein because these are multiple topics in one thread.

The fact is character limits and restriction on the amount of posts an threads are posting restrictions and the only ones announced by SE (the call them "Features" because it's better PR).