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  1. #411
    Player
    OrionInerghem's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/08/14
    Location
    Ul'dah
    投稿
    252
    Character
    Aldebaron Phoenix
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    格闘士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:GYX 投稿を閲覧
    Funny how the BRD bashing began and stopped----> dead tread until someone necroed...

    Yes, BRD seemed like an OP class, but once the serious game began:

    single target:
    1.MNK
    2.BLM
    3.BRD or SMN
    4.DRG

    Not too many brave enough to put this up, or test it, but I have witnessed some experiments with MRD that could challenge spots 2 or 3 for single target damage, given the fight doesn't take too long (huge burst with cds popped, strings of 1200+ crits, 4-5 in a row, may do for a great pvp dps spec) that's with DRG/MNK ilvl60 gear and Titan's axe.

    AOE:
    1.BLM or SMN
    2.BRD
    the rest fall on bonus damage for 1 and 2.
    LOL
    Do people even realize how amazing BLM is for AoE? My main in is BLM, I have SMN with Relic and it has NOTHING on my blm, not even a contest when it comes to AoE, nobody does.
    Here's just an average Screen shot from WP run, nothing special, just the usual:


    So that's 11,218 DMG in one nuke, Which was convert> switftcast> and flared again so roughly 22,000 DMG in about 3 secs.
    Nothing else in this game can touch that.

    And that's not counting the continuous Fire II> Blizzard II that can be done as filler.
    (0)
    2013/11/22 17:53; OrionInerghem が最後に編集

  2. #412
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/11
    投稿
    553
    Character
    Kicking Wolf
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    格闘士 Lv 70
    For AoE there is no question that Blm is tops. If you are questioning that you are very confused. Smn is likely second in AoE. Followed by Bard, Monk and Drg that all do about the same damage in AoE (read their abilities).

    For single target its almost certainly Smn and Mnk on top followed by everyone else. The longer fights go on the better these two get.

    Overall the balance is pretty good and SE has already pointed out issues with melee that they are planning to fix.
    (1)

  3. #413
    Player
    Grailer's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/28
    投稿
    411
    Character
    Silver Healer
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    斧術士 Lv 50
    Before I had relic I hated BLM , they would steal agro from my PLD by mistake almost . Now I love them they are the best DPS class in game . Bards are 2nd because they have mana song which is super useful .

    Only reason DRG would be the Limit Break I guess . Apart from that they suck from my experience.

    For example in coil turn 1 the DRG would sometimes get hit when the boss ate the adds, whereas the BLM would stand back and pew pew pew .
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  4. #414
    Player
    Zer0mr's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/11/08
    Location
    GA
    投稿
    80
    Character
    Zero West
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Grailer 投稿を閲覧
    Before I had relic I hated BLM , they would steal agro from my PLD by mistake almost . Now I love them they are the best DPS class in game . Bards are 2nd because they have mana song which is super useful .

    Only reason DRG would be the Limit Break I guess . Apart from that they suck from my experience.

    For example in coil turn 1 the DRG would sometimes get hit when the boss ate the adds, whereas the BLM would stand back and pew pew pew .
    Thats because the DRG you had weren't very experienced. Bring a T5 Dragoon in there to Coil T1 and watch him destroy something.
    (0)

  5. #415
    Player
    EasymodeX's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/05
    投稿
    900
    Character
    Lunairetic Emx
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    There was a Dragoon I saw in a pug Titan last night who was pulling 104 DPS and tried to friend me.

    I declined.
    (3)

  6. #416
    Player
    Teeko's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    374
    Character
    Kit Tinkerton
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    竜騎士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:EasymodeX 投稿を閲覧
    There was a Dragoon I saw in a pug Titan last night who was pulling 104 DPS and tried to friend me.

    I declined.
    You only talk to people who can pull 105 dps.

    The nerve of that guy!
    (3)

  7. #417
    Player
    pandabearcat's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/02
    投稿
    1,517
    Character
    Alizebeth Bequin
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    踊り子 Lv 90
    You should've asked if he was using the panda rotation.

    PS I only talk to dragoons who use the panda rotation.
    (1)

  8. #418
    Player
    Genesiser's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    115
    Character
    Flig Neldajoa
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    鍛冶師 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:pandabearcat 投稿を閲覧
    You should've asked if he was using the panda rotation.

    PS I only talk to dragoons who use the panda rotation.
    What is a panda rotation?
    (0)

  9. #419
    Player
    EasymodeX's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/05
    投稿
    900
    Character
    Lunairetic Emx
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    That's a good point. I'm going to use that as my filter for friendinvites from now on!
    (0)

  10. #420
    Player
    Hooplahs's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/28
    投稿
    23
    Character
    Hooplah Yoo
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 60
    Most of DRG dps comes from correct rotations of a crap load of skills. If you do it perfectly, you are definitely up their on top DPS single target with monk easy. Easy to play, hard to master moreso than other classes minus monk.

    In my coil group, I'm usually (90% of the time) on the top of DPS charts on all bosses (minus adds) and my group has two bards, 1 SMN or BLM.
    (0)

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