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    Malakaz Vosoma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    FYI I said BRD is the highest. It was the highest In B3, and it got huge buffs. There's really no contest.

    And BLM is one of the lowest ST.
    My mistake but honestly I still can't understand or can agree with your opinion on black mages since its pretty much proven they are one of the best dps classes. As Salaster said if they were no movements in fights they would be number 1.


    Edit:Eckoh bards are that good? Well after leveling an archer to 15 to unlock black mage I have to say I can see why they have crazy good dps. Still I don't believe black mages have the lowest dps.
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    My mistake but honestly I still can't understand or can agree with your opinion on black mages since its pretty much proven they are one of the best dps classes. As Salaster said if they were no movements in fights they would be number 1.
    even stationary a black mage is not going to beat me. Also i HIGHLY doubt we are going to have many tank and spank fight after seeing what content is out there right now.

    You also cannot go be dungeon parses as nothing is long enough to matter. You have to look at the 8 man stuff at this point and look at boss fight not trash fights.

    If you read the parse both the top black mage and the dragoon on my parse used limit breaks. In the video that goes with that parse you see the black made use his AoE limit that did over 4k to 3 mobs at the same time and then in the final burn the dragoon used a 1 bar limit which did over 3700 damage. The black mages and dragoons in my guild are beyond good players we are working on being the best period. So you are going to see what the best players are putting out, not parses of players who might not have a clue what they are doing in a mid level dungeon.
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    True, but garuda at the end is much a kiting fight, brds get a huge advantage, so it depends a lot on the fight.

    and...tbh brd is really a no-brain job, much easier to deal max possible dmg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    True, but garuda at the end is much a kiting fight, brds get a huge advantage, so it depends a lot on the fight.

    and...tbh brd is really a no-brain job, much easier to deal max possible dmg.
    love when people make claims like that yet do not have proof they did anything but grind in 1.0
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    Last edited by Eckoh; 09-02-2013 at 12:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    love when people make claims like that yet do not have proof they did anything but grind in 1.0
    Love when people make claims about other players experiences with few infos on a web page;

    and tbh, you guys killed garuda, so what? do you think you are the benchmark of the dpss in ARR? lulz
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    Dixa Lorvaelis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    Love when people make claims about other players experiences with few infos on a web page;

    and tbh, you guys killed garuda, so what? do you think you are the benchmark of the dpss in ARR? lulz
    did you watch the video? there was no kiting. that puts you in the 'wrong' category
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    did you watch the video? there was no kiting. that puts you in the 'wrong' category
    so you are saying that garuda is a stand fight? tank and spank? no moving her from ground aoe? melees can dps her 24/7?

    Maybe I used the wrong word "kite", but I think you will be able to get what i meant.

    I hope..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    even stationary a black mage is not going to beat me.
    bard is a busy class with a bit of multitasking. it's going to take an exeptional player like yourself to get the most out of it. blackmage is far simpler and more straightforward and for the masses that don't wish to spend the time learning their job it will be the better choice in general.
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