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    Player
    OrionInerghem's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Aldebaron Phoenix
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by GYX View Post
    Funny how the BRD bashing began and stopped----> dead tread until someone necroed...

    Yes, BRD seemed like an OP class, but once the serious game began:

    single target:
    1.MNK
    2.BLM
    3.BRD or SMN
    4.DRG

    Not too many brave enough to put this up, or test it, but I have witnessed some experiments with MRD that could challenge spots 2 or 3 for single target damage, given the fight doesn't take too long (huge burst with cds popped, strings of 1200+ crits, 4-5 in a row, may do for a great pvp dps spec) that's with DRG/MNK ilvl60 gear and Titan's axe.

    AOE:
    1.BLM or SMN
    2.BRD
    the rest fall on bonus damage for 1 and 2.
    LOL
    Do people even realize how amazing BLM is for AoE? My main in is BLM, I have SMN with Relic and it has NOTHING on my blm, not even a contest when it comes to AoE, nobody does.
    Here's just an average Screen shot from WP run, nothing special, just the usual:


    So that's 11,218 DMG in one nuke, Which was convert> switftcast> and flared again so roughly 22,000 DMG in about 3 secs.
    Nothing else in this game can touch that.

    And that's not counting the continuous Fire II> Blizzard II that can be done as filler.
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    Last edited by OrionInerghem; 11-22-2013 at 05:53 PM.

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    Joshyuchiha's Avatar
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    Icyflamez Kurotsuchi
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Black Mage ftw!
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    Eddo's Avatar
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    Faye Sasha
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Seems relevant to ask; is skill speed going to be as important as haste was in 11? or is a STR build going to be the way to go?
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    Kirana's Avatar
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    Character
    Kirana Rika
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Haste had exponential returns in XI, which is what made it so overpowered. With capped haste (80% delay reduction) you attacked 5 times as fast as normal. Skill speed will not provide a bonus that is this significant. Even if it did, TP would run out too quickly for it to matter.
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    ShaoLynn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Toshiko Nakata
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    There is no "Best DPS".... All classes/jobs have their pro's and cons, and there are other factors that play a role too. If people were to say that for example Black Mage is the "best dps" class but put it into the hands of an incapable person, where is that "Best dps" then?
    The "best dps" would be the class/job you feel most comfortable with and thats that.

    What you probably meant to ask is, which DPS class has the highest dmg numbers and stuff like that is irrelevent if you don't master that class anyway, it's just for epeen purposes...
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    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Character
    Skadi Frostborn
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    What do you guys think is the top DPS class in ARR?

    From what I played I am leaning toward DRG. Stuff seemed to die much faster on DRG then on say MNK or BLM.
    Of course PGL kills slow. Its a team class that requires to switch from flank and behind mob for every skill for optimal DPS.

    From what I seen when leveling GLD and LNC is that 95% of PGL dont know class rotation/positioning, and 100% of LNC dont know how Heavy Thrust buff work.
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    Last edited by ilJumperMT; 08-22-2013 at 09:05 PM.

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    mythicrose's Avatar
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    Character
    Mythic Rose
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ilJumperMT View Post
    Of course PGL kills slow. Its a team class that requires to switch from flank and behind mob for every skill for optimal DPS.

    From what I seen when leveling GLD and LNC is that 95% of PGL dont know class rotation/positioning, and 100% of LNC dont know how Heavy Thrust buff work.
    Probably because there isn't a buff/debuff icon to let people know heavy thrust's 10% damage is applied. Also, in phase 4 I didn't see any damage difference when using a skill after HT or not. Example with arbitary numbers. Vorpal strike did 100 damage without use of HT and did 100 damage after a HT instead of 110 damage. Maybe I'm missing something with heavy thrust?
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    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    Probably because there isn't a buff/debuff icon to let people know heavy thrust's 10% damage is applied. Also, in phase 4 I didn't see any damage difference when using a skill after HT or not. Example with arbitary numbers. Vorpal strike did 100 damage without use of HT and did 100 damage after a HT instead of 110 damage. Maybe I'm missing something with heavy thrust?
    Actually there is a buff to show that you have Heavy Thrust buff and the damage difference is easy to see.


    I have as pulled aggro on both LNC and PGL. I use assist tank macro and I even pulled aggro during boss fights, so I was not attacking different mobs then tank.
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    LastFantasy's Avatar
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    Character
    Final' Fantasy
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Im personally a Archer/Bard fan. The right skill chain set up with Archers makes them a DPS force to be reckoned with!
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    MudMonster's Avatar
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    Mud Ulunn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    Probably because there isn't a buff/debuff icon to let people know heavy thrust's 10% damage is applied. Also, in phase 4 I didn't see any damage difference when using a skill after HT or not. Example with arbitary numbers. Vorpal strike did 100 damage without use of HT and did 100 damage after a HT instead of 110 damage. Maybe I'm missing something with heavy thrust?
    I had a buff icon for Heavy Thrust in Phase 4 and the damage increase was working for me. You have to be flanking to get it which means attacking from either of the target's sides, not it's rear.
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