Best DPS class in the game?

[EasymodeX]

Humm, you're putting a lot of emphasis on the procs. Bloodletter is not relevant in the "procs are harder" capacity since it's automatically used off the GCD on macro. E.g. a proc you pay no attention to does not add any difficulty. Straighter Shot is the only Bard proc worth mentioning in that context, and it's a low frequency proc. I doubt there would be a significant difference between a modeled / perfect-simulated / imperfect-simulated execution of SS procs.

BLM Firestarter has a much higher chance to proc, so it interferes much more often (note: I'm a bit dubious that using a SS proc off its normal cycle is even worth it at all due to the Straighter Shot proc rate ... but that's a simulation exercise).

Edit: As a sidenote in your assessment: BLMs have a deficit for reacting to mechanics due to their cast times. This is why a BLM is harder to play than a Bard in a general execution sense, although the BRD gets bonus "silence or wipe" responsibility, so it could be considered "harder" in that sense.

[pandabearcat]

Mmmhmm, Easy, thats my point.

In order to be perfect, it takes ridiculous concentration and reaction time (and no lag).

But playing either at 98% dps takes very little effort.

Thats kinda what I wanted to point out.

Playing the proc dps at 100% efficiency I think is "harder" in some absolute sense because it is more taxing on player concentration, but playing either to "acceptable" is much much easier than the rotational based classes.

I dunno how to more explain it without confusing myself XD

Also yes, you are right in that SS procs are a massive drain on TP.

I just simmed, on a fight with 2 targets, bard does some pretty extremely high damage, however goes out of TP in <3 minutes.

It may be more efficient TP wise to conserve SS procs.

But frankly bard will always have enough tp every ~20 seconds for SS, WB, VB, and has around 2 HS to spare.

It does NOT have enough TP when dry to full DoT two targets.

[Woodberry]

Honestly, with invigorate having a 2 min CD and giving 400 TP, I've never had a TP issue unless I'm keeping up the damage debuff for a very extended period, which is never really the case.

[Lecreuset]

From looking through this thread there doesn't appear to be a "most". Doesn't sound like much of a /thread

2 threads over 20 pages(probably more) crying about bard and being glad it's getting some adjustments. Look harder.

/thread

[NoctisUmbra]

2 threads over 20 pages(probably more) crying about bard and being glad it's getting some adjustments. Look harder.

/thread

BRD's not getting nerfed because it is the top DPS. It is getting nerfed because it is capable of more DPS than it was meant to be as a safe, ranged class with high mobility.

[Lecreuset]

BRD's not getting nerfed because it is the top DPS. It is getting nerfed because it is capable of more DPS than it was meant to be as a safe, ranged class with high mobility.

I couldn't care less what they do and why(unless they made bards more of a support roll then I'd be really happy), I'm still gonna be able to play it effectively. I'm just saying what I see people say/complain about in the forums.

[Solfleur]

Meh... it doesn't matter what the stats are right now. If anything gets too powerful SE will just nerf it anyway; they always do. So just play what you like and try to play it as well as you can and remember it's a GAME. That said, if ONE MORE PERSON CALLS MY CHARACTER A TOON MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE! ^.~

[Rydia13]

Really though, SMN only has to stop to cast for 3 of the 4 DoTs and they cast pretty quickly. They also last a long time with Contagion. Ruin II is great for mobile fights as well, and your pet is always attacking regardless. SMN is well balanced/unique DPS that can always be damaging the mob/boss no matter what the circumstances may be(aside from invulnerability lol).

[SilverRhythm]

The dps class played by a competent person.

The true fact XD

[GYX]

Funny how the BRD bashing began and stopped----> dead tread until someone necroed...

Yes, BRD seemed like an OP class, but once the serious game began:

single target:
1.MNK
2.BLM
3.BRD or SMN
4.DRG

Not too many brave enough to put this up, or test it, but I have witnessed some experiments with MRD that could challenge spots 2 or 3 for single target damage, given the fight doesn't take too long (huge burst with cds popped, strings of 1200+ crits, 4-5 in a row, may do for a great pvp dps spec) that's with DRG/MNK ilvl60 gear and Titan's axe.

AOE:
1.BLM or SMN
2.BRD
the rest fall on bonus damage for 1 and 2.