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  1. #251
    Player
    HoroBoro's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    213
    Character
    Marisa Kirisame
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 55
    I'd rather be able to have the utility to heal when the healer makes a mistake or runs out of Mana (and they do, even when bard is using mp regen song). And the CC. And AoE. Does archer have better AoE damage?

    Quite frankly, this discussion is moot. Play your class well, and you can out damage 90% of the player base. And the other 10% of the time, your tank can't hold aggro, and the healer asks you to stop doing what you're doing so everything can get along.

    Do you really want to be "that guy" who puts ego over smooth runs?
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  2. #252
    Player
    Subucnimorning's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    457
    Character
    Blue Lightt
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    竜騎士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:HoroBoro 投稿を閲覧

    Quite frankly, this discussion is moot. Play your class well, and you can out damage 90% of the player base. And the other 10% of the time, your tank can't hold aggro, and the healer asks you to stop doing what you're doing so everything can get along.

    Do you really want to be "that guy" who puts ego over smooth runs?
    I really don't understand this mentality. If you play a DPS, shouldn't you want to be competitive with all things equal? Being less DPS in ideal circumstances than another DPS class isn't something I want in a game like this.
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  3. #253
    Player
    HoroBoro's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    213
    Character
    Marisa Kirisame
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 55
    Quote 引用元:Subucnimorning 投稿を閲覧
    I really don't understand this mentality. If you play a DPS, shouldn't you want to be competitive with all things equal? Being less DPS in ideal circumstances than another DPS class isn't something I want in a game like this.
    All I know is that when the tank and healer died on the last boss, me and my archer friend soloed the boss from 50%. You can't do that with 2 archers. Feels pretty competitive to me.

    Good DPS is good. I can already pull aggro from tanks whenever I want... why do I want more damage?
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    2013/09/02 14:59; HoroBoro が最後に編集

  4. #254
    Player
    Eckoh's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
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    112
    Character
    Eckoh Saotome
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    弓術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Subucnimorning 投稿を閲覧
    I really don't understand this mentality. If you play a DPS, shouldn't you want to be competitive with all things equal? Being less DPS in ideal circumstances than another DPS class isn't something I want in a game like this.
    in reality the classes are close enough the best player will be the best DPS. They are all capable of being number 1 under the right conditions.
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  5. #255
    Player
    Marcusow86's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/28
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    170
    Character
    Natsu Sousuke
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    So no one voted for Summoner as one of the higher end dps-er? No?

    Oh ok, i guess i should just go around the corner and jump my arse off the river for choosing to be a summoner.

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  6. #256
    Player
    Eikko_Fenrir's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/02
    投稿
    21
    Character
    Greatmage Vivi
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 60
    Well summoner dps is nice but takes time to get going, as for the egi's the lvl 50 ability was a bit of a letdown (5min cd for 500-600 damage with both pet damage buffs up?). Although i do love Fester its a solid hit with full dots on only problem is u need charges for it but if it didn't have charges I'd say it was to strong then.
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  7. #257
    Player
    Arcana's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/04/13
    投稿
    166
    Character
    Ragnar Sigurdsson
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    占星術師 Lv 66
    Quote 引用元:Eckoh 投稿を閲覧
    in reality the classes are close enough the best player will be the best DPS. They are all capable of being number 1 under the right conditions.
    how do you know that? Are you leveled all the dps to 50? or your words are the universal truth? the numbers at endgame dont say the same...
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  8. #258
    Player
    Tical's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/02
    投稿
    3
    Character
    Tical Aura
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    格闘士 Lv 26
    Hopefully this doesn't derail the thread.

    Can any character obtain any "job". I started out as a pugilist, does that mean i can only endgame monk at 30 and later or can i just go level the other perquisites to lvl 30 and on and become a black mage or paladin?
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  9. #259
    Player
    xyaie's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/25
    投稿
    241
    Character
    Seyon Masters
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 80
    You can level a lancer and mara to get a dragoon after becoming a monk yes. Ultimately you can have 50 everything if you want
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  10. #260
    Player
    Vodomir's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    453
    Character
    Vodomir Daemaethor
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Arcana 投稿を閲覧
    how do you know that? Are you leveled all the dps to 50? or your words are the universal truth? the numbers at endgame dont say the same...
    Which numbers? Didn't know there was already a parser or DPS meter available for FFXIV: ARR.
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