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    xyaie's Avatar
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    Seyon Masters
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    Adamantoise
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    as a brief intermission before the undoubtable crapstorm coming

    for the claims of "dragoon doesnt do enough DPS to pull agro" it became quickly apparently for my bunch that DPS != agro in the least

    if an bard does 50 dps from melee range or 50 dps from full range, and a dragoon does 60 dps (melee range obviously), starting at the same time and all, the dragoon will consistently have -half- the threat of the bard, even having outdpsed them. limit break also seems to generate 0 threat.
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    SKYeXile's Avatar
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    Xile Star
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Through damage parsing all my instances id have to say Bard as the "BEST DPS" class for DPS.

    I play a dragoon, and they're the only class that has ever beaten me as DPS and they always pull consistently high numbers, obviously these cant all simply be good players on these bards as that would be defying the odds.
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    Marisa Kirisame
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 55
    I'd rather be able to have the utility to heal when the healer makes a mistake or runs out of Mana (and they do, even when bard is using mp regen song). And the CC. And AoE. Does archer have better AoE damage?

    Quite frankly, this discussion is moot. Play your class well, and you can out damage 90% of the player base. And the other 10% of the time, your tank can't hold aggro, and the healer asks you to stop doing what you're doing so everything can get along.

    Do you really want to be "that guy" who puts ego over smooth runs?
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HoroBoro View Post

    Quite frankly, this discussion is moot. Play your class well, and you can out damage 90% of the player base. And the other 10% of the time, your tank can't hold aggro, and the healer asks you to stop doing what you're doing so everything can get along.

    Do you really want to be "that guy" who puts ego over smooth runs?
    I really don't understand this mentality. If you play a DPS, shouldn't you want to be competitive with all things equal? Being less DPS in ideal circumstances than another DPS class isn't something I want in a game like this.
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    Marisa Kirisame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    I really don't understand this mentality. If you play a DPS, shouldn't you want to be competitive with all things equal? Being less DPS in ideal circumstances than another DPS class isn't something I want in a game like this.
    All I know is that when the tank and healer died on the last boss, me and my archer friend soloed the boss from 50%. You can't do that with 2 archers. Feels pretty competitive to me.

    Good DPS is good. I can already pull aggro from tanks whenever I want... why do I want more damage?
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    Last edited by HoroBoro; 09-02-2013 at 02:59 PM.

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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    I really don't understand this mentality. If you play a DPS, shouldn't you want to be competitive with all things equal? Being less DPS in ideal circumstances than another DPS class isn't something I want in a game like this.
    in reality the classes are close enough the best player will be the best DPS. They are all capable of being number 1 under the right conditions.
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    in reality the classes are close enough the best player will be the best DPS. They are all capable of being number 1 under the right conditions.
    how do you know that? Are you leveled all the dps to 50? or your words are the universal truth? the numbers at endgame dont say the same...
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    Tical Aura
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 26
    Hopefully this doesn't derail the thread.

    Can any character obtain any "job". I started out as a pugilist, does that mean i can only endgame monk at 30 and later or can i just go level the other perquisites to lvl 30 and on and become a black mage or paladin?
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    Vodomir Daemaethor
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    how do you know that? Are you leveled all the dps to 50? or your words are the universal truth? the numbers at endgame dont say the same...
    Which numbers? Didn't know there was already a parser or DPS meter available for FFXIV: ARR.
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    Natsu Sousuke
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    So no one voted for Summoner as one of the higher end dps-er? No?

    Oh ok, i guess i should just go around the corner and jump my arse off the river for choosing to be a summoner.

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