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    Player
    Nysro78's Avatar
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    Nysro Stryker
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    Siren
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    Archer Lv 50
    I think a Bard who is not channeling a song will thrash any class.
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    Arrya Stark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 16
    http://www.twitch.tv/elvinemod/c/2841277 - Crazy Black Mage damage on Ifrit Hard Mode

    vs.

    http://www.twitch.tv/vanguardstv/c/2838401 - Not even close Dragoon damage on Ifrit Hard Mode


    I dunno if it is a gear disparity, but it doesn't seem even remotely close. I'm deciding between Dragoon and Black Mage right now and after watching that, it's hard for me to justify playing Dragoon, regardless of how cool they look.
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    Jo Maru
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffburger View Post
    http://www.twitch.tv/elvinemod/c/2841277 - Crazy Black Mage damage on Ifrit Hard Mode

    vs.

    http://www.twitch.tv/vanguardstv/c/2838401 - Not even close Dragoon damage on Ifrit Hard Mode


    I dunno if it is a gear disparity, but it doesn't seem even remotely close. I'm deciding between Dragoon and Black Mage right now and after watching that, it's hard for me to justify playing Dragoon, regardless of how cool they look.
    You're comparing a magic and melee class on a boss resistant to melee and weak to magic...
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    You're comparing a magic and melee class on a boss resistant to melee and weak to magic...
    he/she also dos not understand slow large numbers are not always better then faster small ones... Bards do not have big crits but they have some of the best DPS
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    Spythe West
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 44
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffburger View Post
    http://www.twitch.tv/elvinemod/c/2841277 - Crazy Black Mage damage on Ifrit Hard Mode

    vs.

    http://www.twitch.tv/vanguardstv/c/2838401 - Not even close Dragoon damage on Ifrit Hard Mode
    Comparing apple and oranges, also I don't want to say the Dragoon player is bad but I watched 3 min of that video and he never put up the Heavy Thrust buff which is +10% dmg for 20 sec while he was attacking from the side anyway. Maybe he forgot but that is pretty huge, all his other debuff/dots were on point.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Durandal
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffburger View Post
    http://www.twitch.tv/elvinemod/c/2841277 - Crazy Black Mage damage on Ifrit Hard Mode

    vs.

    http://www.twitch.tv/vanguardstv/c/2838401 - Not even close Dragoon damage on Ifrit Hard Mode


    I dunno if it is a gear disparity, but it doesn't seem even remotely close. I'm deciding between Dragoon and Black Mage right now and after watching that, it's hard for me to justify playing Dragoon, regardless of how cool they look.
    Sad thing is that BLM didn't do a proper rotation. I would have done better lol. I need to make my video now that we can post them.
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    Last edited by Reika; 09-03-2013 at 03:46 PM.

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    Crescent Dusk
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Can you please provide a link to the parses? I'm interested and never got to see them.
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    Can you please provide a link to the parses? I'm interested and never got to see them.
    http://i.imgur.com/KFvYHxo.jpg

    the "You" is my bard. You can use the loadstone to see the gear and classes of anyone listed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJf-o9S1EEU

    that is the video that goes to that parse. BTW i am marked with the circle
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    Last edited by Eckoh; 09-01-2013 at 10:35 AM.

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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    that is the video that goes to that parse. BTW i am marked with the circle
    You mana song is only on like 20% of the fight. You play the same way as I do. We probably meant the same thing

    I see you still lack DRG buff which should increase your lead in DPS meter.
    Also you have not been using requiem when you had spare mana thus lowering BLM dps in the raid.
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    Seyon Masters
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    Adamantoise
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/KFvYHxo.jpg

    the "You" is my bard. You can use the loadstone to see the gear and classes of anyone listed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJf-o9S1EEU

    that is the video that goes to that parse. BTW i am marked with the circle
    thank you, this is the kind of thing i was looking for.

    showing "Vashin Valorian " is a lancer like .5% damage below the bard?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunasy View Post
    the friends in question he is dpsing with are hardcore raiders. the parsing is accurate to the damage the classes do
    if your post was directed at mine, im not knocking anyone's skill/dps. avid seems to be one of the top groups right now, but ive seen atleast 6 on here compare how well their class does to their group of friends. can you not agree its easier to iron things out if person A does 15 and person B does 14 rather than person A beats all his friends and person B beats all his friends?

    I've been in hardcore guilds before, top 3 in the world in rift and top 50 in "that other game" and in neither situation would i write off someone else having a possibility of having a player better than one of ours. just because we were high ranked doesnt mean our mage plays his mage 110% perfectly best in the world the way mage is meant to be and all should follow him blindly.
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    Last edited by xyaie; 09-01-2013 at 11:34 AM.

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