Crafting

[TheVedis]

The grind is insane once you hit 41 or so. I just hit 46 leather and its taking SO LONG to get to 50 :X

which is why i stopped caring about the penalty to sp myself.

at some point you just gotta up and eat the penalty when you overdo it each week.

My rule of thumb


1) If the mats are rare or too expensive, DO NOT grind into fatigue
2) If the mats are cheap as hell(weaving) who cares how bad it gets just keep going!
3) If the penalty gets too bad(40-50%) around that time youve been at it too long, time to switch

[Elkwood]

which is why i stopped caring about the penalty to sp myself.

at some point you just gotta up and eat the penalty when you overdo it each week.

My rule of thumb


1) If the mats are rare or too expensive, DO NOT grind into fatigue
2) If the mats are cheap as hell(weaving) who cares how bad it gets just keep going!
3) If the penalty gets too bad(40-50%) around that time youve been at it too long, time to switch

Thats a good philosophy but keep in mind 999 shards is 220k give or take a few k Do you really want to grind into SP when your using 6000 shards a level?

[TheVedis]

Thats a good philosophy but keep in mind 999 shards is 220k give or take a few k Do you really want to grind into SP when your using 6000 shards a level?

shards are 110k a stack or so now on Besaid so its not really an issue for me
add in as i said, how the grind works for the most part


right now im doing carpentry for instance, lets look at what it costs me

Yew masks(400 of them) today I will do

the logs cost me 3000 each. The shards for each log cost me another 1000, so 1000 per lumber is the cost basicaly

now that lumber takes very few shards, so it brings my price per mask up to 1400.....
guess how much masks vendor for? around 1400

i spend NOTHING, so why not grind it into the ground?


as for my weaving, i actualy profit selling the cloth im making, so again, shard cost doesnt factor in.


Now in other crafts like LW(where the toadskins are too expensive) i tend to stop when i hit fatigue, but im also not focusing it up yet, when i do, i wont care anymore again(especialy when im past toad and the mats are cheaper)

[Jibe]

Now in other crafts like LW(where the toadskins are too expensive) i tend to stop when i hit fatigue, but im also not focusing it up yet, when i do, i wont care anymore again(especialy when im past toad and the mats are cheaper)

You don't really get past toad. You do start fleece at rank 36 or so, but once you hit 42, BAM you are back to toad for the duration. Brown toad vamps are basically the path from 42-50. There are some other finish items you can make but they take alot of mats and to me don't seem worth it. Luckily it's pretty easy to farm toad skins if you have a rank 45 or so combat class.

[TheVedis]

You don't really get past toad. You do start fleece at rank 36 or so, but once you hit 42, BAM you are back to toad for the duration. Brown toad vamps are basically the path from 42-50. There are some other finish items you can make but they take alot of mats and to me don't seem worth it. Luckily it's pretty easy to farm toad skins if you have a rank 45 or so combat class.

ive found you can take hog to 50 also

[Jibe]

ive found you can take hog to 50 also

Oh ya, thats true. I was doing hog shoulderguards but I found they are not quite as worth it, cause instead of 12 vamps, you only get 1 shoulderguard and they npc for the same price. Also, hogs and toads are about the same to farm. Also, after the update, if you do your LW leves every reset they tend to give out alot of toad skins as rewards now and that is very helpful.

[TheVedis]

Oh ya, thats true. I was doing hog shoulderguards but I found they are not quite as worth it, cause instead of 12 vamps, you only get 1 shoulderguard and they npc for the same price. Also, hogs and toads are about the same to farm. Also, after the update, if you do your LW leves every reset they tend to give out alot of toad skins as rewards now and that is very helpful.

i was looking at the cost of hog vs toad too

toad goes for 30k average
ive often seen hog for 12-15k

so in the end yes, you dont get as many items to vendor
but the cost isnt as great either so it equals out