XIV GameBreaker.tv 7/30/13

[ArkhamNative]

Curse do deserve some hate but at the end of the day they shut down a dead website. Why did it die? The creation of this official forum killed Core back in March 2011.

A lot of fan sites slowed down after the official forums got up to speed mid-2011. Some are still very slow or dormant to this day. But Core really started picking back up around End of v1 timeframe, and was getting many new members and returnees as interest in ARR alpha and beta grew. What Curse killed was far from dead. It was growing.

[Kallera]

Hey there, I am not a fan of Curse. Normal people join companies like TGN, Machinima and Curse to protect their youtube channel. Accusing them of promoting evil and hatred is miss-placed. Curse do deserve some hate but at the end of the day they shut down a dead website. Why did it die? The creation of this official forum killed Core back in March 2011.

P.S. Just want to point out GBTV is not affiliated with Curse it was one of the guest hosts.

I did say they shut down a website, and they also displaced a fan community while they were at it. This wasn't in 2011, but in May of 2013. News predicting 2.0 release were already underway. The actual date came 3 days later.

I'm just stating the facts from blogs that covered this. They are 2 organizations that decided to burn their bridges with their intended audience for this show. So..."Best of luck to them"?

[Orophin]

Curse do deserve some hate but at the end of the day they shut down a dead website. Why did it die? The creation of this official forum killed Core back in March 2011.

A lot of fan sites slowed down after the official forums got up to speed mid-2011. Some are still very slow or dormant to this day. But Core really started picking back up around End of v1 timeframe, and was getting many new members and returnees as interest in ARR alpha and beta grew. What Curse killed was far from dead. It was growing.

Arkham is correct. Core was starting to get a lot more interest with the new information being released about ARR. There was a lot of things going on in the background for the Core that only those involved are privy to that knowledge.

The official forums did take a lot of traffic from smaller websites, but the Core was far from dead and Curse refused to put any resources into the website, even when several new members were starting to register and visit the site frequently.

Anyway, sorry to detract from the OP. I read Deli's post and it's a bit discouraging that they don't have their facts straight regarding FF14 accounts. If you don't positively know how things work then you shouldn't discuss them. It only hurts your credibility and it's not a good way to get off the ground.

[Kinseykinz]

I think in the beta forums it's the same people starting both posts, which is fine no rules against that. And if this excites people about the game, more power to them...but I think the damage has been done towards the Legacy/1.0 stuck around crowd. Not only that, most of the 1.0 vets that kept playing found other podcasts,sites and information sources they now subscribe to/prefer.

So I guess it's good for ARR for people who previously dismissed the game to be actively promoting it/supporting it again. But they have a long way to go to win back the 1.0 crowd....

I'll be sticking to my preferred podcast source (not GBTV)...as well, I know one of the lalas (by accident too LOL)

[Beowolf]

although kinzy is reason enough to, i won't be watchin this garbage this time around.

[Kinseykinz]

although kinzy is reason enough to, i won't be watchin this garbage this time around.

LOL, my point wasn't to watch it...or to not watch it really.

It was, they have the right to advertise too, and to be completely fair, GBTV might very well be a source that people use to 'see' if this game is worth it ...and/or it might have been the 'go to' for information back in early 1.0 days for some of the 1.0ers who quit who are now looking to make a comeback...so in both those cases, I can see some 'good' in it.

That said, GBTV needs to get every little factoid right, down to the very last detail. While they don't need to outright apologize for their lack of professionalism in the early 1.0 days, they need to make it clear, that they've changed and aren't simply riding the 'popularity bandwagon' and/or just hanging around in hopes that the game will fail again.

You can't insult the loyal fanbase of gamers who stuck with the game, and then expect them to not remember it. I actually won't be watching the show. But they have the right to advertise here. We also of course have the right to nicely say, we don't approve of their past behavior, tactics etc.

I will stick to the podcasts and websites I like, run by people who know what they are talking about and who were there playing the game, when it was supposedly 'garbage'. Because, well that's what I like and how I roll. Besides, I found good sources of game information that don't include GBTV...so why would I switch .

TL/DR: You don't find out who your true friends are until you are struggling and down and out. The people who support you and stick with you through thick and thin are the people you can trust, and keep close. Those who are only around when the going is good, typically aren't worth your time. GBTV is a 'fair weather friend'.

[Relix]

I will stick to the podcasts and websites I like, run by people who know what they are talking about and who were there playing the game, when it was supposedly 'garbage'. Because, well that's what I like and how I roll. Besides, I found good sources of game information that don't include GBTV...so why would I switch .

You do realize that two of the people that were on the pod cast played the game past the initial launch, even one of them is a legacy member. I'm not sure what all they misquoted, I would have to re-watch the show to see what they were talking about.

[Rowyne]

You do realize that two of the people that were on the pod cast played the game past the initial launch, even one of them is a legacy member.

Despite the shortcomings of some of the people associated with Gamebreaker.tv, I have to say I really did enjoy watching this. And Relix has a good point, one Mike is a big fan, the other Mike has legacy status. They were both fairly knowledgeable. Gary Gannon has a running joke of throwing his 1.0 CE box, but you can tell he wants to like this game and wants to see it succeed.

Honestly, that Pocket chick pisses me off more than anyone else.

I've noticed Gamebreaker.tv picking up steam in posting news blurbs about ARR through Facebook. They've had some really positive things to say, and I think it's nothing but good advertising for the game.

[Molly_Millions]

I didn't watch, but thanks for letting me know this show is garbage. I really hate it when a supposed source of news doesn't do their due diligence and releases incorrect or inaccurate information. So many of them do these days.

What ever happened to journalistic integrity?

[indira]

they made good points. gave there opinions & stated facts.

fanboys wont like it of course.