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    I was pretty sure they said that the imperial hats would be attainable again in 2.0 later on. There's no way they are locking out Giantsgall weaps. No point in throwing away perfectly good weapon models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    I was pretty sure they said that the imperial hats would be attainable again in 2.0 later on. There's no way they are locking out Giantsgall weaps. No point in throwing away perfectly good weapon models.
    I'm 100% certain the hats aren't coming back, but the giantsgall weapons were iffy. It was based on my misunderstanding of what was happening with skirmish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    IDK, maybe they thought the stats were OP to begin with? Maybe it's as they said that those were meant to be vanity items, and the refresh on them didn't fit that vision.
    That does not matter it's the fact that Imperial items items are not also vanity items. They could have easy made stats that fit with ffxiv 2.0 with the raven earring. The point i'm trying to get at if raven is a vanity then should the Imperial items seeing how no new players can get it.


    I just have a feeling that they be a way of getting Imperial items if not they would be vanity items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    That does not matter it's the fact that Imperial items items are not also vanity items. They could have easy made stats that fit with ffxiv 2.0 with the raven earring. The point i'm trying to get at if raven is a vanity then should the Imperial items seeing how no new players can get it.


    I just have a feeling that they be a way of getting Imperial items if not they would be vanity items.
    The fact that new players can't get then doesn't make them vanity items. What makes a vanity item is SE saying it's a vanity item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    The fact that new players can't get then doesn't make them vanity items. What makes a vanity item is SE saying it's a vanity item.
    Guess you don't get the point lol. If raven earring have shit stats so it make it fair for new players. Then it should be the same for every other items that you no longer can get.

    That why i say i think the item would return somewhere in FFXIV at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Guess you don't get the point lol. If raven earring have shit stats so it make it fair for new players. Then it should be the same for every other items that you no longer can get.

    That why i say i think the item would return somewhere in FFXIV at some point.
    I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong. To me it comes across as butthurt, tbh. You're mad that you worked so hard to get items for the OP stats that turned out to be vanity items in ARR. But believe me, I feel your pain. I spent countless hours trying to get the Imperial Operative Tricorne for my WAR, when now it's only for ARC, a class I don't really play.

    Look at it this way, at least you can wear your White Ravens on your favorite class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong. To me it comes across as butthurt, tbh. You're mad that you worked so hard to get items for the OP stats that turned out to be vanity items in ARR. But believe me, I feel your pain. I spent countless hours trying to get the Imperial Operative Tricorne for my WAR, when now it's only for ARC, a class I don't really play.

    Look at it this way, at least you can wear your White Ravens on your favorite class.
    First let's start by i can care less about white raven earring by the time i had it i had 3 relics and was few days from last saved. I give that as a example of what the imperial items should have for stats seeing how if you can no longer get them then it be unfair for others if you have such a great item. That was the point in making the white reven into a vanity items.

    The only point i'm trying to say here is once again. If it have good stats i believe they be a way of getting it in 2.0. If it have pointless stats like white reven then it be something for looks or show off aka vanity items. I understand that vanity items are what SE says are vanity items but there really no category to put this type of item under and what come close to me is saying it's should be a vanity item if you no longer can get it in 2.0.

    And let's just agree to disagree seeing it's just the two of us talking about this and me saying the same thing over and over again. Let's see what other have to say if they even care i just wanted trying to make a point if it have good stats then it be in 2.0 somewhere if not then make it a Vanity item or lower the stats. But at the end it's SE game they can do w/e they want with the items i can careless we wont be using any of it within no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    First let's start by i can care less about white raven earring by the time i had it i had 3 relics and was few days from last saved. I give that as a example of what the imperial items should have for stats seeing how if you can no longer get them then it be unfair for others if you have such a great item. That was the point in making the white reven into a vanity items.

    The only point i'm trying to say here is once again. If it have good stats i believe they be a way of getting it in 2.0. If it have pointless stats like white reven then it be something for looks or show off aka vanity items. I understand that vanity items are what SE says are vanity items but there really no category to put this type of item under and what come close to me is saying it's should be a vanity item if you no longer can get it in 2.0.

    The truth is, we don't know why they changed the stats, all we know is that they changed the stats because they wanted them to be vanity items. Was this because of a mistake when creating them initially, or was it because of second thoughts after the fact? We don't know, we may never know.

    And let's just agree to disagree seeing it's just the two of us talking about this and me saying the same thing over and over again. Let's see what other have to say if they even care i just wanted trying to make a point if it have good stats then it be in 2.0 somewhere if not then make it a Vanity item or lower the stats. But at the end it's SE game they can do w/e they want with the items i can careless we wont be using any of it within no time.
    Unless you work for SE, I don't think you're in a position to say what the motivation behind changing the stats on the White Ravens was. We know that SE thinks they should be vanity items. They have not said the same thing about the Imperial hats, but they have said that they won't be available in ARR.

    The truth is, we don't know why they changed the stats beyond that they wanted them to be vanity items. We don't know what caused the change of heart. Was it because they made a mistake when initially creating them, or did they change their minds after the fact? We don't know, we may never know.
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    So im guessing i cant get my sentinels trousers... well that's pretty god damn annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matto View Post
    So im guessing i cant get my sentinels trousers... well that's pretty god damn annoying.
    We don't know yet, we don't know what's in the strongholds at this point. That's what got Zenaku and I into the discussion above.
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