Somnus and Mamool Ja

[Diyne]

So I've got a couple of things itching at me as far as lore questions go.

So what the heck is somnus supposed to be equivalent to? Marijuana? Cocaine? Moon Sugar?

Why are there Mamool Ja? Are they some kind of island-dwelling off-shot of the Amal'jaa? Are they relatives? If they're seperate, are they just another, somewhat neutral tribe, similar to the Qiqirn and Goblins?

Maybe these are answered in some of the other class stories or quests that I haven't gotten to yet, so I'll keep looking around--but I am still curious.

Edit: Found most of the answers to the Mamool Ja question to appease my curiousity.

[NoloeTazier]

The tidbit about the "lands to the west" is really intriguing to me since the only lands we've heard about are Islabad, Othard, and the "island continent" to the far south. So they're coming to Eorzea as mercenaries, in the Arcanist guild there is a Mamool Ja patiently waiting in line to retrieve his belongings from the customs agents. Dodozan is an Ul'dahn merchant in Limsa Lominsa and he praises Limsa for having not given the Beastmen the boot like Ul'dah has.

Edit: so the Mamool Ja are coming to Eorzea to fight.

[Zenaku]

They also said at the time there not as strong as the other beastmen who can summon there primal. But you never know in update they could get to the point that they can summon a primal themself. I really want to know more about them also

I also can't wait to we allow to go and see the lands of the 4 race like lalafall homeland where a lot of things suppose to be poisonous. Not sure if this would carry on into Yoshi-p lore of the game but seeing how it was part of 1.0 plot line i'm sure they keep it.

[NoloeTazier]

They also said at the time there not as strong as the other beastmen who can summon there primal. But you never know in update they could get to the point that they can summon a primal themself. I really want to know more about them also

I also can't wait to we allow to go and see the lands of the 4 race like lalafall homeland where a lot of things suppose to be poisonous. Not sure if this would carry on into Yoshi-p lore of the game but seeing how it was part of 1.0 plot line i'm sure they keep it.

Well they're a new race to Eorzea, if the Paragons get a hold of them then they could definitely teach them to summon a Primal. Which makes me wonder because the Ixali worshiped Garuda long before the Paragons taught them to summon her, so I wonder how they exactly learned about her if she was sealed up in Mor Dhona...well underground Mor Dhona.

[finiteHP]

Well they're a new race to Eorzea, if the Paragons get a hold of them then they could definitely teach them to summon a Primal. Which makes me wonder because the Ixali worshiped Garuda long before the Paragons taught them to summon her, so I wonder how they exactly learned about her if she was sealed up in Mor Dhona...well underground Mor Dhona.

I can give you part of the answer to that. Garuda and the other primals weren't sealed in Mor Dhona. What was sealed in Mor Dhona was a massive concentration of aether. The release of this aether just allowed the beast tribes to start summoning the primals. The tribes most likely worshipped the primals long before they could summon them. We know for sure that the Ixal have been worshipping Garuda for longer than they've been able to summon her. After all, they didn't lose the ability to fly recently. I really like the theory that was put forth in one of the other threads here on the Lore forum that Garuda might be the cause of them slowly losing their ability to fly as a way to make them more dependent on her.

My guess of how they originally learned of the primals is that in some earlier era the primals were free and later banished and worship of them has been passed down for thousands of years. One of the lore experts probably has a better theory though.

[NoloeTazier]

Fighting around and I had to kill some "invasive species" called Thavnairian Mitelings? Where's that? Radz-at-Han

Maybe this has something to do with the Mamool Ja

Radz-at-Han is a city state to the east (Othard), I thought this originally that maybe they (the Mamool Ja) were the creators of the Giantsgall Weapons which were shipped to Limsa, then the Mamool Ja followed their trade to Limsa as well. So I had to re-read and it states "to the east," and the Mamool Ja are to the west...so I assume new land. Monsters named after Thavnair may have found their way aboard the boats supplying the shipments (Thavnair being an island).

I can give you part of the answer to that. Garuda and the other primals weren't sealed in Mor Dhona. What was sealed in Mor Dhona was a massive concentration of aether. The release of this aether just allowed the beast tribes to start summoning the primals. The tribes most likely worshipped the primals long before they could summon them. We know for sure that the Ixal have been worshipping Garuda for longer than they've been able to summon her. After all, they didn't lose the ability to fly recently. I really like the theory that was put forth in one of the other threads here on the Lore forum that Garuda might be the cause of them slowly losing their ability to fly as a way to make them more dependent on her.

My guess of how they originally learned of the primals is that in some earlier era the primals were free and later banished and worship of them has been passed down for thousands of years. One of the lore experts probably has a better theory though.

I'll take the opening CS as quite literal, you see Ifrit and Titan fly from the explosion as they're released back to the land. The reason why Primals were not summoned prior to this was because they were sealed under the Silvertear Lake. The explosion of the Agrias, mostly due to the Ceruleum engines and ceruleum on board, was enough to shatter the seal under the lake and release the Primals. With the Tomb of Xandes and the Crystal Tower being in this general area I would say maybe Bahamut wasn't the only (Elder) Primal sealed by the Allagans. We know the Garleans encountered Primals in Othard PRIOR to the invasion of Eorzea, so what's the different between Othard Primals and Eorzean Primals? The Eorzean Primals were sealed away.

But yeah, the Primal names may be out there for everyone to know, we just as Adventurers just recently learned of them. I think the Ixali losing their primary feathers that helped them fly has more to do with the evolution that they underwent in Xelphatol than the worship of Garuda.

[HiirNoivl]

Somnus is a theme of XV by Yoko Shimomura.

And yes, apparently its an illegal drug and maybe a cause of the increasing occurances of the Echo. lol Just joking. XD

[Catapult]

If you watched closely during the Ul'dahn opening, you would have noticed the Brass Blades officer actually retrieved the bag of somnus from out of his own belt.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

/tarnished brass

[HiirNoivl]

If you watched closely during the Ul'dahn opening, you would have noticed the Brass Blades officer actually retrieved the bag of somnus from out of his own belt.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

/tarnished brass

Yeah I remember that. XD

And you actually have to handle some drug dealing in Ul'dah for the PGL quests.

[Alaltus]

I don't have the quote right now but in one of the limsa quests they explain that Somnus is a substance that can put someone into a deep sleep.