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    Personally, I've never thought, not even for a second, that he died. The way he vanished into the light during the End of an Era is just to much of an eyeroll for me. As far as I remember, we've seen NPCs die during quests, so SE doesn't shy from showing us death loud and clear. I have a nagging feeling that they're going to go all Gandalf on him, and I hate it. I do hope that I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuinn View Post
    I have a nagging feeling that they're going to go all Gandalf on him, and I hate it. I do hope that I'm wrong.
    I find it more likely they will send the twins on an emotional journey, discovering that their grandfather has become part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    I keep telling you, man. He's become Odin!

    /hunch unrefuted so far
    Can't be odin

    A fell knight clad all in black, Odin roams paths long forgotten beneath the canopy of the Black Shroud.
    There are none now alive who know the truth of when or by whom this elder primal was first summoned into the world. Ever vigilant as he sits astride his mighty steed, Sleipnir, it is said that Odin is driven solely by the desire to do battle with worthy foes.
    To me it tell me odin was summon a very long time ago and he was under black shroud too bahamut came blow shit up a path open up for him to leave.
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    I thought the part where he disappeared into light was him being literally disintegrated by Megaflare.

    I loved Louisoix, but I think his death should be permanent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    I find it more likely they will send the twins on an emotional journey, discovering that their grandfather has become part of the problem.
    Now that is titillating! I do hope...which might lead into the suggestion I am about to make below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Can't be odin

    To me it tell me odin was summon a very long time ago and he was under black shroud too bahamut came blow shit up a path open up for him to leave.
    Perhaps Louisoix did not BECOME Odin, but rather SUMMONED him?

    There are none now alive who know the truth of when or by whom this elder primal was first summoned into the world
    Allow me to conveniently redefine the words in the above phrase. If Louisoix died, it would still be true that there are "none now alive". Or if not that, this passage could merely be referring to the "first" summoning of Odin, with this latest appearance being the second (or x amount of) time that he was summoned into Eorzea -- only this time it was Louisoix who summoned him.

    Enjoying the read, by the way. I love the Lore Forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern View Post
    Now that is titillating! I do hope...which might lead into the suggestion I am about to make below:



    Perhaps Louisoix did not BECOME Odin, but rather SUMMONED him?



    Allow me to conveniently redefine the words in the above phrase. If Louisoix died, it would still be true that there are "none now alive". Or if not that, this passage could merely be referring to the "first" summoning of Odin, with this latest appearance being the second (or x amount of) time that he was summoned into Eorzea -- only this time it was Louisoix who summoned him.

    Enjoying the read, by the way. I love the Lore Forum.
    But it seem odin was summon long time ago before the 6 era or around that time.
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    Got "dumb" question... People seem to be very disappointed if Lou comes "back"...is there another video where we actually see him die? I assumed he did, but I did not see it. Could I get the link? I like to keep up on the lore when I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trieze View Post
    Got "dumb" question... People seem to be very disappointed if Lou comes "back"...is there another video where we actually see him die? I assumed he did, but I did not see it. Could I get the link? I like to keep up on the lore when I can.
    Nothing aside from the End of an Era cinematic, but the way that he breaks his staff, loses hope, summons the energy required to send everyone away, and then struggles to hold himself up, smiling as everything around him gets brighter, all points to the intended interpretation being he died in noble sacrifice.

    If he survived, that's not him pulling off an unlikely ambiguity, we were misdirected for the sake of an emotional punch - which, I can't speak for everyone, but I think SE's better than that when it comes to a central character during the conclusion of a story arc.

    At this point, though, I'm preparing myself for the real possibility that those of us who think it'd be cheap to do anything other than let him rest in peace are just going to have to deal with it. Speaking for myself, I'm not uncompromising, but if they plan on bringing him back in any way, the execution is going to have to be pretty damn good for me to not just sigh at it. If that's where they're heading with it, I wish them the best of luck. The last thing I want to do is come off like one of those "fans" who just sits on the sidelines shouting nonconstructive put-downs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Nothing aside from the End of an Era cinematic, but the way that he breaks his staff, loses hope, summons the energy required to send everyone away, and then struggles to hold himself up, smiling as everything around him gets brighter, all points to the intended interpretation being he died in noble sacrifice.
    No, this is what *they* want you to think.

    *dons Darksteel Foil Hat*

    Why were we sent away again? To protect us from a Megaflare that possibly never happened? If so, why for five years and not five days? Wouldn't the people of Eorzea need the help of bold adventurers to rebuild after the decimation of Bahamut?

    More likely, Louisoix needed the aether-energy from all of the Echo-damned souls present to summon the one thing that could defeat Bahamut - Odin. We were banished en-masse as our lives (and even the aetheric-resonant memories of us in the mothercrystal lattice) were drained from us to fuel the awakening of the Elder Primal. Only after five years of Eorzeans praying to The Twelve, were The Twelve (from their vantage points as crystals circling around it) able to feed Hydaelyn enough aether to reconstitute us.

    A fell knight clad all in black, Odin roams paths long forgotten beneath the canopy of the Black Shroud. There are none now alive who know the truth of when or by whom this elder primal was first summoned into the world. Ever vigilant as he sits astride his mighty steed, Sleipnir, it is said that Odin is driven solely by the desire to do battle with worthy foes.
    Zenaku, this just says the paths he roams are long-forgotten and not that he has been roaming them for a long time. This text doesn't prevent him from being summoned last week (or perhaps five years ago).

    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    I keep telling you, man. He's become Odin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    Darksteel Foil Hat
    This is now officially part of the Lore Forum Meme Canon.

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    As for your points, you're technically right. The whole Monk storyline, told by the same guy who laid out all the lore about Midgardsormr and Crystal Tower, was all about how scenes of catastrophic death leave behind a ton of aether, though it's up for debate how much of it could possibly have been used to summon Odin after he funneled what had to have been a ton of it into channeling Thaliak Althyk for the time-limbo. Also, that wording is suspiciously open to Odin being new to the world.

    Plenty of doors still open.
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