FERNEHALWES!!! Lore Book?

[Vilhem]

Canturbury Tales @.@.. /twitch /memories of lit. class

[Rannie]

Canturbury Tales @.@.. /twitch /memories of lit. class

wow i never read those... I was atleast forced to read Wuthering Heights in 9th grade... the moorish tongue gave me a headache the first time i read it... was canturbury tales good at least?

On topic I do support some type of Lore book

[Aldora]

Annnd this is where a nice lore book will help out the poor orphaned kitties like C\\'Rysta, look at that face Ferne!
It\\'s so sad and in need of more lore

[Mjollnir]

the moorish tongue gave me a headache the first time i read it...

...that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Moor·ish (adj.)
1. Of or relating to the Moors or their culture.
2. Of, relating to, or being a style of Spanish architecture of the 8th to the 16th century, characterized by the horseshoe arch and ornate decoration.

Wuthering Heights was set in the Yorkshire Moors, but as far as I can remember was written in very good English (it's been 20 years, so forgive me). I guess there might have been some Yorkshire dialect..?

The Canterbury Tales on the other hand, I remember having to translate from Middle English into something I understood before I could make sense of them. I hated the chore of that, but then I didn't become a translator as my career, so I can see why a certain someone may want to pay homage to them!

[Rannie]

...that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Moor·ish (adj.)
1. Of or relating to the Moors or their culture.
2. Of, relating to, or being a style of Spanish architecture of the 8th to the 16th century, characterized by the horseshoe arch and ornate decoration.

Wuthering Heights was set in the Yorkshire Moors, but as far as I can remember was written in very good English (it's been 20 years, so forgive me). I guess there might have been some Yorkshire dialect..?

The Canterbury Tales on the other hand, I remember having to translate from Middle English into something I understood before I could make sense of them. I hated the chore of that, but then I didn't become a translator as my career, so I can see why a certain someone may want to pay homage to them!

yeah wuthering heights had yorkshire in it i remember speaking to my english teacher because the whole class couldn't understand that character at all and she said it was moorish dialect (pertaining to the yorkshire moors or baroque i think it's calls as well but heavier) Also it was a lot harder to understand than say the Secret Garden's dialect for certain characters. I understand it now though after having to read Wuthering Heights.

hmmm I'll have to try to read those cause my interest has been piqued.

[Mjollnir]

yeah wuthering heights had yorkshire in it i remember speaking to my english teacher because the whole class couldn't understand that character at all and she said it was moorish dialect (pertaining to the yorkshire moors or baroque i think it's calls as well but heavier)

Your English teacher is as mad as a fish.

Yorkshire dialect = north of England (Sean Bean as Boromir or Ned Stark). Found in Wuthering Heights/The Secret Garden.

Moorish dialect = well... The Moors were medieval Muslims from North Africa who conquered much of southern Europe 1300 years ago. To say something is 'Moorish' means you are pertaining to their culture. They influenced the Basque (now a region of France and Spain) language heavily, so if there was a 'Moorish dialect' of anything it would be of Basque (does sound a bit like 'Baroque', admittedly ).

Nothing Moorish in Wuthering Heights!

I guess I was lucky in that I was familiar enough with Yorkshire that I didn't notice it in Wuthering Heights or The Secret Garden! lol


I think I'm off-topic, sorry!

[Vilhem]

wow i never read those... I was atleast forced to read Wuthering Heights in 9th grade... the moorish tongue gave me a headache the first time i read it... was canturbury tales good at least?

On topic I do support some type of Lore book

Kinda late to reply lol. I read it when I was in high school (some 16 years ago), so most of it is forgotten, but I do remember it was a hard read, along the lines of Beowulf (also read that in HS X.x).

[Aldora]

Ferne! I'm dying here ; ;
Beta is SO much fun, I'm having a blast!
But I need more!!! The story and lore is amazing, and I can't help but to remember something about a lore book.
This would be something awesome to pass the time by and to really get into the world of Eorzea ^_^b (plus it will help me finish my backstory >_> hehe)

So I have a list of things I'm willing to do if you could please, for the love of the Twelve, give me this darn lore book!!

I know exactly what you mean! I just finished writing a backstory regarding my origins. I mostly use the info I gathered from the Miq'ote naming thread as well as bits and pieces I found in this forum section (thanks Thal Icebound, you've been a great source of info!).

I've posted it on the new Beta Lodestone Blog for everyone to read:

Story on my new Beta Lodestone Blog:
Part 1 out of 12
Part 2 out of 12
Part 3 out of 12
Part 4 out of 12
Part 5 out of 12
Part 6 out of 12
Part 7 out of 12
Part 8 out of 12
Part 9 out of 12
Part 10 out of 12
Part 11 out of 12
Part 12 out of 12

I was hoping that both Thal and Fernhawles would read it and post their comments about it. Especially the direction I was taking it.

Please, Thal & Fernhawles. Would you give it a read and let me know what you think of it?

Thanks

[Catapult]

Awkward timing right now, but I promise I'll have a read soon.

[Aldora]

Thank you very much for reading it and leaving a comment Thal!

I wanted to reply on the blog, but i think i would've hit the character limit quite quickly, so i figured i'd write it here. (^_^)

A sad and beautiful story. There is a lot of heart in it.

Lore observation: in the Echo, we don't tend to take the place of someone present in the memory, but instead look on as third parties. That being said, the Echo comes in many different ways, so you could be implying that it simply works a little different for Caitlyn/C'rysta.

Again, thank you so much for reading it and giving your feedback on it. /takesadeepbow m-(_ _ )-m

I wanted to write a story that would justify Caitlyn Aldora's name to be changed into C'rysta Zeith. It felt to just call her that, or have a recently event take place that would simply make her change her name. I felt that it would need to have a deeper meaning for her as a character. I quickly came to the conclusion that it would have to involve her past.

I wanted to use a name that would fit the Lore and the naming conventions of a Keeper of the Sun, but the name i have used so far didn't fit the naming conventions used for the Keepers of the Sun. So, how do you write something that sounds plausible? I had to create a certain base to begin with.

First, i started to think about a name which would follow the Keeper of the Sun naming conventions. After talking about changing my characters name with my fellow Linkshell members, i eventually settled on the name "C'rysta Zeith". The name Zeith was a tip i got from a Linkshell member who based it on the name of my alt "Zeith Aldora". From the list of Keeper of the Sun tribe names, i thought that Coeurl would fit best since the Miq'ote are usually perceived by others as "cats". I chose to Rysta as her first name, which was derived from the word "Crystal", making it "C'rysta" if i were to combine it with her tribe name.

That is basically how "C'rysta Zeith" came to be.

The next part was to think about her parents, who were they and what role did they have in her past. Since i've used "Zeith" as her last name, she would have to be Rysta of the Coeurl who was sired by Zeith. The think was, i didn't want to make Zeith a Nunh, because i didn't want to make him one of the breeding males. The biggest reason was that, if i understood the lore regarding Tia's and Nunh's correctly, 1 Nunh can be a "companion" for more then 1 female. Namely because of this part from the naming conventions:

There is only one other way a tia can become a nunh, and that is to leave his tribe, and start his own. This, of course, requires several females to accomplish, and most female Seekers of the Sun are rarely impressed by a male who cannot defeat a nunh.

I didn't want that. I wanted C'rysta's father to have only 1 female companion, which would be C'rysta's mother (Call me old fashioned (^_~ ) ). In order to do so, i've bent the "rules" a bit and kept Zeith a Tia. But, i did feel that just keeping Zeith a Tia would be wierd... There had to be a reason why Zeith was still a Tia and that C'rysta was thus "sired" by a Tia instead of a Nunh and that this reason would have to have certain consequences which would result in C'rysta becoming "Caitlyn Aldora" in the end.

This was basically the basis i've used for the story. I wanted to use as much of the Lore as i could, with the ability to bend it a little while keeping it plausible. I couldn't really find more about the Miq'ote lore to verify if this would be "true" to the lore, so i've decided to stick with Zeith being a Tia and see how it turned out.

Next big obstacle i had was having Caitlyn understand and most of all except her origins. This is where the Echo came into play. To be honest, i didn't really spend much time investigating the lore around the Echo, but really wanted the Echo part of the story to deepen the bond between C'rysta and her parents. The best way i could think of was to have Caitlyn view the events from the past through the eyes of her mother and herself as a baby.

I must say... It was very exciting to write that... I could really feel the atmosphere and emotion while i was writing it. (^_^ ) That's why i was happy that you mentioned this in your comment:

A sad and beautiful story. There is a lot of heart in it.

Lore observation: in the Echo, we don't tend to take the place of someone present in the memory, but instead look on as third parties. That being said, the Echo comes in many different ways, so you could be implying that it simply works a little different for Caitlyn/C'rysta.

It really made it feel that i've managed to create the right atmosphere and invoke the desired emotions and attachment i was after. /bigsighofrelief (^_^; )

I would be extremely happy if Fern would read it and leave a comment. Although... I don't know if the people from SE can even respond on the Blog... Would be very interesting though...

I would even print it out and take it with me to the Gamescom if they would like me to! (^_^ )

(By the Twelve... I should not get my hopes up like that. (^_^; ) )