Yoshi-p says: "Button pressing is stressful." ....

[hrdndv]

I want to throw out my line, having chosen the perfect rod and bait, and wait until I feel a bite (controller vibration). Then struggle with a fish to haul it in without breaking the line.

That is fishing. If they get rid of waiting for a bite, or the struggle of landing a fish, then it isn't fishing. Fishing is relaxing because of the process... not because you go to sleep!

Communing with nature get stuffed!

[hrdndv]

I imagine it will be something similar to Minecraft or the original FFXI fishing; you cast your line, wait for a hit, then grab your fish.

Fishing was heavily botted in FFXI because you could sell some fish for decent vendor gil, and then there was the moat carps.

As long as they keep vendor purchasing prices extremely low (near 0), people will only sell them on the market. So, even if RMT wanted to bot fish like crazy, they'd could only do good things for everyone by supplying cheap fish for everyone to freely purchase or not, as opposed to artificially inflating the currency and reducing the purchasing power of other players.

As to the specific topic at hand, I really just want FFXIV fishing to be like zelda fishing. I'd wait another year for that if it was necessary... but I can see why there's a place for casual fishing... and though I will always prefer more awesome fishing, Yoshi seems to think more people want it to be casual... and I can respect that.

If you make fish worthless, you sacrifice the entire class just to prevent botting. This kills fishing. AFK

[Orophin]

Sure I haven't played it but think about what he's saying. Fishing has basically no more market value. Fish will be obtainable by "chatting". His general attitude and insights already seem like something not all engaging and I'm hoping expressing concern now will allow change before its too late. D:

Posted this in the other big fishing thread, but this is wrong. Fish will still be required in cooking and alchemy.

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http://xivdb.com/?search/!filters/1/...ZMX1JPUkFTQzoi

Whether or not the mechanics behinds fishing are going to be nerfed to hell will remain to be seen, but the way they're talking, there will be some thought to it for those who really want to pursue it, such as rod and bait choice, as well as weather and season factors. Based on this, I don't think it will function identically to how Botany or Mining is now.

[Aldora]

Well, actually... The biggest problem i had with Fishing in 1.0 was that i wasn't able to talk while fishing. I didn't have time to answer a question through /tell or /linkshell chat with a simple "yes" or "no". The reason was that when i did, i would miss my "sweet spot" for the fish i was trying to catch and would have to wait for the angle arrow to return to that same spot. By the time it got back at the "sweet spot", the fish would get away.

Every single time...

That was extremely frustrating.

For now, i'm curious what fishing is going to be like, because like most of you here i have no clue how it will work based on what Yoshi-p has told us so far. I'll have to wait and see for myself.

[Solace]

That's right. Let's just all stop talking about what-ifs for the fun of it because "it's pointless." You do realize that speculation is all part of the fun, right?

Seriously, what the hell?

Then speculate.. Or would you rather just look for someone else to try to troll and come in here looking for a fight?

[Kagato]

Then speculate.. Or would you rather just look for someone else to try to troll and come in here looking for a fight?

Everything is a conflict with you.

[Huh]

Well, actually... The biggest problem i had with Fishing in 1.0 was that i wasn't able to talk while fishing. I didn't have time to answer a question through /tell or /linkshell chat with a simple "yes" or "no". The reason was that when i did, i would miss my "sweet spot" for the fish i was trying to catch and would have to wait for the angle arrow to return to that same spot. By the time it got back at the "sweet spot", the fish would get away.

Every single time...

That was extremely frustrating.

For now, i'm curious what fishing is going to be like, because like most of you here i have no clue how it will work based on what Yoshi-p has told us so far. I'll have to wait and see for myself.

There was definitely time to reply between casts, I never had a problem chatting. If it was a long message I'd type it in between casts, if it was a quick reply I'd do it quickly between jigs.

[Molic]

The "hard-core" aspect from fishing will probably come in through the preparation - fish with X rod Y bait Z location @ specific T. Then they could at like water depth and w/e else to it. But the actually fishing part i feel will be pretty casual. - this is an opinion.

[LlenCoram]

I don't even know what to say anymore. Yoshi seems to think _everything_ is stressful. Pressing a button a few times is stressful. Having to wait a fraction of a microsecond for your character to initiate movement (inertia animations) is stressful. Not being able to chat is stressful.

I could chat just fine before while fishing. It was dead easy. I also have a really hard time seeing his point. When I was fishing in 1.0? It's because I wanted to fish. It's not because there was nothing to do or that I was waiting for something to happen. Something was happening. I was fishing. The bit about "treasure maps" doesn't do anything for me either, because it's already been said that those treasure maps will lead to a location where you'll get to... fight. As in change class to a combat class and stop what you were doing before. I can assure you if that's the case every treasure map I find will be tossed. If I wanted to fight, I'd go fight. If I want to fish, then I want to continue fishing.

I'll wait until phase 4 so that we can be ignored even more than we already are, because let's not lie to ourselves and expect them to actually start paying attention to us, but I really have no hopes at all for the new fishing. I can't wait to leave feedback about it on the open beta forums so that it can be completely drowned out and ignored.

Welcome to Yoshi's FFXIV! Bring your combat classes or prepare to get shafted! If you don't like fighting, what's wrong with you? Why are you even here?

I had so much trust in him too. I can see now that he's just another one of those gamers who not only do not but cannot understand the mentality of people who don't like combat.

EDIT: I'd like all the time I spent on my luminary rod back please. I don't care how big a fish I just caught is, so if they won't be worth anything and I can't give them to friends for alchemy or culinarian dishes, then I just can't be bothered.

[Orophin]

EDIT: I'd like all the time I spent on my luminary rod back please. I don't care how big a fish I just caught is, so if they won't be worth anything and I can't give them to friends for alchemy or culinarian dishes, then I just can't be bothered.

Read my post above Llen. Fish will still be used in crafting.