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    Quote Originally Posted by Caixerch View Post
    that's not true, well the PSN part it is, but the cost of the console is less than 400$, so they'll make money with every unit sold.
    seeing as how the price of the processor alone is surmised to be around 300 bucks, i highly doubt its going to cost less than 400.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie View Post
    I don't always play my Xbox. When I play Xbox, it's usually a single-player game anyways.

    Xbox One's 'always online' doesn't mean you need a persistent internet connection 24/7 to play online. All you need to do is log in once every 24 hours to the X1 servers, so the game can check to make sure your copy of the game is real and not pirated.

    Some people get so butthurt over anti-piracy tactics, lawl
    I don't think it's so much butthurt at anti-piracy policies. If I buy a game and I want to sell it, give it to a friend or trade it in for something different, where is the piracy in that? Piracy is downloading something that you never paid for. It is not purchasing something that then that company telling you how, when and where it can and can't be used.

    In short, M$ is telling Xbox One owners, you can go out and buy the game and then install it to your system, but you still don't own it. You can only play it on your system based off of their servers. What happens if their servers go down, or they stop supporting the Xbox Box, just like Steam, there goes all your games. You just have a bunch of disks that are paperweights and no way to play them.

    My issue with their practices is this...

    -Have to log in on internet once a day... and why that isn't a big deal to you. People have to realize not everyone has a stable internet connection. Not everyone has internet in their home. Not every country has reliable internet around their homes.

    -Must have an internet connection, even for single player games. Why should people have to have a connection if they have no need to use it?

    -Traveling somewhere, Grandma's house? Aunt's house? Staying in a hotel at the beach for a week? Don't know if there will be a net connection? Don't even bother packing it up and bringing it to play with, if you can't be 100% positive there is net or you will be able to connect, it's a lost cause.

    -Going to a family or friends house and you wanna play your library over there since they have an Xbox One there as well? Go for it!!! But you can only play for 1 hour at a time... so don't get too into your game or you'll get cut off.

    -What happens if you do loose power/net connection due to storms, power being worked on etc... you get totally locked out of your video game library and you cannot get back in until you have signed back in and they have run a check on your whole library. You are LOCKED out of the games YOU paid for on YOUR account. Doesn't matter if it's single player, multi-player or online. You cannot play at all.

    -Oh but, fyi you can still access your dvd player, tv and movies if you have no net connection. Show's were their priorities lie, and it's not with the gamers.

    So you can call it butthurt over anti-piracy... which makes no sense, because as I stated... buying a game and having rights to how you want to use it or get rid of it has nothing to do with piracy.

    I call it an epic fail, a waste of gamers time and money, and them not caring about the ones who made their system what it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    I don't think it's so much butthurt at anti-piracy policies. If I buy a game and I want to sell it, give it to a friend or trade it in for something different, where is the piracy in that? Piracy is downloading something that you never paid for. It is not purchasing something that then that company telling you how, when and where it can and can't be used.
    When you buy a video game you don't own the video game, what you are actually buying is a license for you (the person who paid for it) to use it on the machine that the company specified. I know not alot of ppl know this but in short it technically is piracy for you to buy a game and than lend it to a friend for a week or two cause they don't have the proper license to play it only you do.

    I agree that since video game companies have never enforced this law its pretty stupid to try to do it know but...... thats the problem when u buy a game u dont actually own the game u have a license that allows you to play the game and the company can decide to do w/e they want with that license. kinda like when SE comes out and tells u what there gonna do and at the end of everything they always say "items listed in this list are subject to change" the company of the license you buy from the video game you want to play has full use and ability to change there license or void it whenever they want.

    I may of dropped a little to much market logic in here but w/e do with it what u wish XD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norack View Post
    When you buy a video game you don't own the video game, what you are actually buying is a license for you (the person who paid for it) to use it on the machine that the company specified. I know not alot of ppl know this but in short it technically is piracy for you to buy a game and than lend it to a friend for a week or two cause they don't have the proper license to play it only you do.

    I agree that since video game companies have never enforced this law its pretty stupid to try to do it know but...... thats the problem when u buy a game u dont actually own the game u have a license that allows you to play the game and the company can decide to do w/e they want with that license. kinda like when SE comes out and tells u what there gonna do and at the end of everything they always say "items listed in this list are subject to change" the company of the license you buy from the video game you want to play has full use and ability to change there license or void it whenever they want.

    I may of dropped a little to much market logic in here but w/e do with it what u wish XD.
    With the language that Sony used, there's more to it than that. In Sony's eyes, you own the license to use that data on ANY PS4, not just yours. You also own the disk, the package, and all the data on the disk. You can play that disk on your PS4 or a friend's, they don't care. You can lend it out to a friend, they don't care. You can even put it into a blender or run it over with a lawnmower, they don't care. 'course, dunno why anyone would put the game in a blender or run it over with a lawnmower, but you can.

    With XBox, it's much different (if I understand it right). You buy a game, but they dictate when you can play it and when you can't. The ironic thing is this was design to stop piracy I guess, but all it will really do it make more people pirate to get around this BS>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    With the language that Sony used, there's more to it than that. In Sony's eyes, you own the license to use that data on ANY PS4, not just yours. You also own the disk, the package, and all the data on the disk. You can play that disk on your PS4 or a friend's, they don't care. You can lend it out to a friend, they don't care. You can even put it into a blender or run it over with a lawnmower, they don't care. 'course, dunno why anyone would put the game in a blender or run it over with a lawnmower, but you can.

    With XBox, it's much different (if I understand it right). You buy a game, but they dictate when you can play it and when you can't. The ironic thing is this was design to stop piracy I guess, but all it will really do it make more people pirate to get around this BS>
    Like I said business can change the license at there sole discretion. In other words Sony is thinking logically. Where as Microsoft is thinking like a business with money grabbing manager logic. It is illegal to lend games out and you don't own the game.

    However Sony is going 'O you know what the average person doesn't understand this lets change the license aggrement and let them do it, sure it's technically "illegal" but its better to get 90 cents out of a dollar than to piss the gamers off and get nothing right?'

    Where as Microsoft is sticking to the law going 'This is illegal you cannot do it!!!!'

    Sorry im not a good teacher lol don't really know how to explain it better. its more like sony is more human beings where as microsoft is a cold calculating machine doing everything 100% by the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norack View Post
    When you buy a video game you don't own the video game, what you are actually buying is a license for you (the person who paid for it) to use it on the machine that the company specified. *snip*
    Don't get me started on this crap.. isn't just the video game companies doing it, lot of software companies getting in on the racket *looking at you "Creative Cloud"*
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    fanboys wont let the xbox die. dont be shocked if sony follows in MS bull, if there a success.
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    I think the real winner here is AMD. lol
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