dkp point systems

[Notredamefan23]

seems that even with the need greed pass system ls/fcs still intend on using the dkp system. i dont understand why thought if you are in a raid and you need the item you shoul dbe able to need on it and not be foreced to pass and give it up just becasue you dont have enought points its not fair but on the other hand if say ur playing WHM and need a piece of tank gear you cannot need on it and can only greed. therefore you as the tank should be able to get it since thats the job your on and also not have to pass just becasue you dont have enough points its complete BS. the game has a need greed pass sytem for a reason not so people can manipulate it just so certain people can get the gear they want and others get screwed everytime

[Emstidor]

seems that even with the need greed pass system ls/fcs still intend on using the dkp system. i dont understand why thought if you are in a raid and you need the item you shoul dbe able to need on it and not be foreced to pass and give it up just becasue you dont have enought points its not fair but on the other hand if say ur playing WHM and need a piece of tank gear you cannot need on it and can only greed. therefore you as the tank should be able to get it since thats the job your on and also not have to pass just becasue you dont have enough points its complete BS. the game has a need greed pass sytem for a reason not so people can manipulate it just so certain people can get the gear they want and others get screwed everytime

Need/Greed are designed so that there's a sense of fairness when doing content with PUGs (Pick-up groups). If your free company wants to use another system, that's entirely their prerogative. You're always free to leave and find another one if it bothers you that much. What exactly do you expect SE to do, ban the company leaders for kicking you if you keep rolling for everything?

[Zenaku]

seems that even with the need greed pass system ls/fcs still intend on using the dkp system. i dont understand why thought if you are in a raid and you need the item you shoul dbe able to need on it and not be foreced to pass and give it up just becasue you dont have enought points its not fair but on the other hand if say ur playing WHM and need a piece of tank gear you cannot need on it and can only greed. therefore you as the tank should be able to get it since thats the job your on and also not have to pass just becasue you dont have enough points its complete BS. the game has a need greed pass sytem for a reason not so people can manipulate it just so certain people can get the gear they want and others get screwed everytime

I agree a DKP system is in a way to screwed with people. Most of the time the leader going to end up with the most points which mean they always have top of the line gear with other members gimp then they wonder why they can't win. This is why they should make a new system for there linkshell. Because at the end you need rules or you still going to end up with lucky people getting gear while the rest can't noting.

maybe base it off attendance and if you already got enough gear for the week. Or you can just do what most JP linkshell did in FFXI they did just one dynamis to get two people the item they needed. But it seem like the game itself have rules set where if you loot to much you end up locking yourself and you can't get anymore items so that good.

Also yoshi-p said they going to reward people who did not get any gear with the same gear just with less stats. I hope they do this system for both endgame content and not only the low level raids that are just for level up.

[Themis]

Need/Greed are designed so that there's a sense of fairness when doing content with PUGs (Pick-up groups). If your free company wants to use another system, that's entirely their prerogative. You're always free to leave and find another one if it bothers you that much. What exactly do you expect SE to do, ban the company leaders for kicking you if you keep rolling for everything?

It's like a private business, they are able to impose whatever additional rules and requirements around the common rules that they feel is best for them. Just be sure to check what those additional rules are before you commit yourself to an FC/LS and you'll be fine. Don't join the ones that you don't feel are fair.

As already noted, the N/G system is a good compromise for random groups, and with the Content Finder being the primary method of getting yourself into end-game content, you'll be quite glad for it. If you want WHM gear, then sign up on WHM. If you want PLD gear, sign up on PLD. That way, you are in control of what equipment you are capable of getting - all that is required then, is a) the piece dropping, and b) you winning the lot.

[Fantasia]

Also yoshi-p said they going to reward people who did not get any gear with the same gear just with less stats. I hope they do this system for both endgame content and not only the low level raids that are just for level up.

^ This.

There's going to be a credit system implemented wherein when you finish a dungeon you'll receive unique currency (of some kind) which can be collected and then spent on the gear that the dungeon can drop. It's more for people who have the worst luck when it comes to obtaining gear from chests, but it's still good for building up credit with random groups.

[Zenaku]

^ This.

There's going to be a credit system implemented wherein when you finish a dungeon you'll receive unique currency (of some kind) which can be collected and then spent on the gear that the dungeon can drop. It's more for people who have the worst luck when it comes to obtaining gear from chests, but it's still good for building up credit with random groups.

I agree that a great system it allow everyone in the ls to get gear. Then when that person have better luck they can upgrade there gear to something better.

[Mikaboshiff]

^ This.

There's going to be a credit system implemented wherein when you finish a dungeon you'll receive unique currency (of some kind) which can be collected and then spent on the gear that the dungeon can drop. It's more for people who have the worst luck when it comes to obtaining gear from chests, but it's still good for building up credit with random groups.

Sounds like totems in 1.0. Save up the totems to get an ifrit weapon and whatnot

[Enma]

In any Guild, Clan or Free Company, if you want to distibute farly drops through the people you have to use a DKP System. There are many reasons for this, but it's wrong pointing the finger to the DKP System itself, almost all time the time the people ruins it, and not vice-versa. True story!

[Slatfatf]

What does that actual acronym DKP stand for again?

[Almalexia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_kill_points

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