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    Thanks for clearing that up Vinny!
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    Don't feel like you have to choose a server based on your region or you will have a really bad laggy time. You won't notice the difference in lag between a server in your region or across the world.
    what is this I don't even?

    servers that are physically closer to you will yield lower pings. This more or less assured by the laws of physics. There IS a measureable difference in lag between a server in your region and across the world. If you're close enough, your network link can be virtually instantaneous, while across the world it can easily add a third of a second or more to your packet travel time, on top of the server processing (which is also an issue, but one they've been making an effort to minimize)

    while server response was the larger issue in 1.0, having a 300ms ping vs having a 80ms ping can mean the difference between dodging that crack or getitng caught in it- it can make the difference between that last ditch move to take out your PvP adversary going off or you eating dirt. People need to stop trivializing ping like it doesnt impact gameplay.
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    Picking on people is bad. Let' try to understand one another. Here's a simple minded man break down

    Servers before: v1.0 After Server: v.20

    ~ All in Japan - ~ Legacy can only go to legacy -
    ~ No Cross servers - ~ Global servers to help decrease lag +
    ~ distance cant created lag - ~ implemented cross server instance quest n dungeons+


    In my opinion and general understand~
    Servers were in Japan so people might had chose a server based on its NAME and or POPULATION. Some people probably group together to one sever for or with their friends. Such as the role players choosing XX server. It wasn’t for let's say, Japanese people are here lets go there.
    ~I cant argue with or against diversity being a choice. Since the servers were REGION FREE. It didn't matter what you chose since you could never know the demographic of the sever.
    Whether you spoke Japanese or English , the only thing that was known was the chance to encounter such people. Now with this split the encounter rate to meet such people will be lower. Why? Because people will naturally want to choose a Server close to their city. If it didn’t matter at all then why people want to know the servers location? Cause they want to know foremost the lag/ping. Not if they will encounter Japanese /English speaking people. And because people will want to chose a sever close to their city , they'll end up being in a sever with people who ...Guess what? Speaks their language with an added reduction in lag if negligible. So people shouldn’t blame SE for trying to take away diversity when they tried to make it happen with cross sever integration , IP region free blocked servers , and built in mediocre translation program. Having all the servers in Japan just meant for easier maintenance and control. Yoshi P said it was a challenge to do so and long hard decision to make global severs. Which means that they didn’t initially want it. It was us players who wanted servers in our home countries. So please don’t be so hard on SE for this decision and hopefully they'll reveal Eu and Na servers locations as to reduce lag on my server ...


    The majority of the players speaks English or Japanese. As a Native English speaker I enjoy reading comments from and questing with Japanese. However most Japanese player tend to be quite hardcore and if your language skills aren’t up to par ...you wouldn’t stay very long or they would decline. So how many people who plays this game can speak fluent Japanese and English and is actually willing t and able to use it in game? I work in Asia and I know many people know English but they rarely use it even in obvious situation where it could benefit them. And some can speak well yet can write well. Let alone these same people would rarely be a gamer.
    As an East Asian Studies graduate sadly I must say I 'm not fluent in Chinese nor Japanese and my written English can be bad at times. But All that matters to me is CAN I play with Japanese players. As long as this option stays open I Don't mind Global severs. And with the cross server function this can be achieved. So staying on my Japanese server Masamune or transferring to an NA server. Conversely = Playing on a Japanese server means more Japanese people with a possibility of lag or better ping with more people that speak my native tongue on a NA server.ARRGGHHH ( yes I know the time of day is a factor but I never had an issue with that...)

    P:S I want to connect to the Chinese server if they have them. I remember one time I found some Chinese speaking players and it was awesome @@
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    Knowing different languages does give you a slight edge and diversity in gaming. I know chinese.. well since I am chinese.. And I know Japanese since I learned it for 6 years + lived in Japan for over a year. And I guess since I am typing some English.. I possibly do know English as well. The biggest barrier that I had to overcome to play with my japanese linkshell members was time difference.. Hated it.. I live on the west coast now.

    I think I am going to leave my JP based server and transfer to a NA server though.. Very high possibility.. I just need to know at least one decent person from Ridill who is transferring to make me transfer too !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by StrikeField View Post
    Picking on people is bad. Let' try to understand one another. Here's a simple minded man break down

    Servers before: v1.0 After Server: v.20

    ~ All in Japan - ~ Legacy can only go to legacy -
    ~ No Cross servers - ~ Global servers to help decrease lag +
    ~ distance cant created lag - ~ implemented cross server instance quest n dungeons+


    In my opinion and general understand~
    Servers were in Japan so people might had chose a server based on its NAME and or POPULATION. Some people probably group together to one sever for or with their friends. Such as the role players choosing XX server. It wasn’t for let's say, Japanese people are here lets go there.
    ~I cant argue with or against diversity being a choice. Since the servers were REGION FREE. It didn't matter what you chose since you could never know the demographic of the sever.
    Whether you spoke Japanese or English , the only thing that was known was the chance to encounter such people. Now with this split the encounter rate to meet such people will be lower. Why? Because people will naturally want to choose a Server close to their city. If it didn’t matter at all then why people want to know the servers location? Cause they want to know foremost the lag/ping. Not if they will encounter Japanese /English speaking people. And because people will want to chose a sever close to their city , they'll end up being in a sever with people who ...Guess what? Speaks their language with an added reduction in lag if negligible. So people shouldn’t blame SE for trying to take away diversity when they tried to make it happen with cross sever integration , IP region free blocked servers , and built in mediocre translation program. Having all the servers in Japan just meant for easier maintenance and control. Yoshi P said it was a challenge to do so and long hard decision to make global severs. Which means that they didn’t initially want it. It was us players who wanted servers in our home countries. So please don’t be so hard on SE for this decision and hopefully they'll reveal Eu and Na servers locations as to reduce lag on my server ...


    The majority of the players speaks English or Japanese. As a Native English speaker I enjoy reading comments from and questing with Japanese. However most Japanese player tend to be quite hardcore and if your language skills aren’t up to par ...you wouldn’t stay very long or they would decline. So how many people who plays this game can speak fluent Japanese and English and is actually willing t and able to use it in game? I work in Asia and I know many people know English but they rarely use it even in obvious situation where it could benefit them. And some can speak well yet can write well. Let alone these same people would rarely be a gamer.
    As an East Asian Studies graduate sadly I must say I 'm not fluent in Chinese nor Japanese and my written English can be bad at times. But All that matters to me is CAN I play with Japanese players. As long as this option stays open I Don't mind Global severs. And with the cross server function this can be achieved. So staying on my Japanese server Masamune or transferring to an NA server. Conversely = Playing on a Japanese server means more Japanese people with a possibility of lag or better ping with more people that speak my native tongue on a NA server.ARRGGHHH ( yes I know the time of day is a factor but I never had an issue with that...)

    P:S I want to connect to the Chinese server if they have them. I remember one time I found some Chinese speaking players and it was awesome @@
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    Since the servers were REGION FREE.
    They still are region free. If they weren't, we wouldn't have the choice of playing on the JP servers. As I wrote in other threads, the legacy servers remaining in Japan in particular will still have an NA community, along with many english speaking players who live in japan and live in the oceanic region (including Australia)

    P:S I want to connect to the Chinese server if they have them. I remember one time I found some Chinese speaking players and it was awesome @@
    China will get its own service completely isolated from the rest of the world, per chinese rules. It's basically the only way for an outside business to push their product in China- to offer a version of a product specifically for the chinese market and no one else. Chinese service was announced very early in the game's history though, so unknown if it's still planned or when it will happen.

    It was us players who wanted servers in our home countries. So please don’t be so hard on SE for this decision and hopefully they'll reveal Eu and Na servers locations as to reduce lag on my server ...
    They are located in Montreal, Canada- fairly close to halfway across the world from Japan- In North America and closer to Europe than Japan is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    They still are region free. If they weren't, we wouldn't have the choice of playing on the JP servers. As I wrote in other threads, the legacy servers remaining in Japan in particular will still have an NA community, along with many english speaking players who live in japan and live in the oceanic region (including Australia)


    They are located in Montreal, Canada- fairly close to halfway across the world from Japan- In North America and closer to Europe than Japan is.
    Since the servers were region free

    The verb "be" is the most important verb to learn in English. It's also the most complicated. In the past tense, it has two forms: was and were.
    Were ~ is used for plural nouns, in this case serverS. But in any case I never said the servers weren't region free.

    V 1.0 servers are no longer active and running with ARR they will have new servers , better servers actually, with cross servers integration. And the beta test are testing and stressing them out. So in this case I'm saying that the two servers both old and new are region free. Or rather the old servers were region free and the new one will continue this.

    All of the servers in Canada eh? Can't see how's that's better for EU since its just as far to Japan ><
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    Last edited by StrikeField; 06-07-2013 at 04:23 PM. Reason: The comments I made were clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrikeField View Post
    All of the servers in Canada eh? Can't see how's that's better for EU since its just as far to Japan ><
    Montreal's on the East side of Canada; a lot closer to Europe than Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    Montreal's on the East side of Canada; a lot closer to Europe than Japan.
    Yep it's very close maybe that the reason they pick Montreal vs having the datacenter in CA. I think the main reason there not one in UK itself it's because there really is not that big of player base there by the look of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Yep it's very close maybe that the reason they pick Montreal vs having the datacenter in CA. I think the main reason there not one in UK itself it's because there really is not that big of player base there by the look of it.
    Tell me about it. I know about fifty people IRL here in the UK who play MMOs. I'm the only one who played XIV. It's an uphill struggle trying to get people to give ARR a second shot. I've got three friends to pre-order, five friends who are undecided and forty who consider anything that's not WoW a waste of their time^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrikeField View Post
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    All of the servers in Canada eh? Can't see how's that's better for EU since its just as far to Japan ><
    most ISP in EU route their traffic to Japan through the U.S. backbones.
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