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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleurette View Post
    I'm actually surprised 1.0-ers are getting anything at all, considering we got at least 6+ months of free trial. 2 weeks free is cool and all, but...did you guys really just spend all those posts arguing about what a free trial was/wasn't? Worst case scenario, we pay a measly ten dollars as soon as the launch version starts, just like we used to...I don't see a problem with that. If it's to support Yoshi-P, the future content, and the game itself, then yeah, I'm all for giving ten bucks to the game as soon as it's released, and I'm adamant to pay the extra 20 for the digital CE bonus. We get all of Beta 4 to test for free. They've stated that that's pretty much like playing the actual game, so...-shrug-

    I just don't get why you were so entitled to get that one month...we got a lot of free months before, and here you are, asking for another? I think that's really silly. You need to be more grateful for what we did get, not being entitled to what we could be getting. We are not entitled to anything. I too have criticized some things about ARR and I'm not really into SE stuff, but still...they're not perfect. no company is. especially when things are in the process of changing. I'm just glad they're not selling out into a pay-to-win model, and I hope they never do.

    in any case, you sort of got what you wanted, so good for you. i guess. but in the future, don't be complaining about how it's not a month.
    Only, I stated multiple times that for what I'm personally concerned I won't care one bit. I've been hooked to the concept of ARR since it was first announced, so i'll pay what I have to pay.

    Square Enix has the very difficult task to pull back those that aren't hooked at all, and have very little reason to be "grateful". It's about 800,000 people, and luring them back into the game will be instrumental to the game's success. In order to do so, the more time they give those people to enjoy ARR, the more a chance there'll be that they'll even try the game, and possibly stay afterwards.

    Lovely to see how there's still people trying to flame even now that the issue is solved lol. Some people are really low.

    By the way, Xandir/Listerfiend, if you really want to flame, may as well have the guts to do it with your real account and not with two alts pulled out for the occasion to agree with each other.

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    The clone wars are in another game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    The clone wars are in another game.
    Wow, using a personal attack to avoid addressing the OP.

    Not that I am surprised.

    So that we can get back to the important point, I will re-post what you should do in the OP:


    I even did the work for you.

    Instead of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    FFXIV:ARR includes 30 free days of playtime with purchase for new accounts. However, even though players who own FFXIV Version 1.0 will receive FFXIV:ARR for free, this does not include the 30 free days of play.
    Does this means that 1.0 owners will have to start paying the monthly fee immediately?

    This is a *large* 180 from what was announced previously (for instance here), that clearly stated that there'd be a free trial for PC users before they'd have to pay the monthly fee.

    I'd say a clarification is needed because there are going to be a lot of disappointed people because of this.

    If I didn't completely misinterpret what Hvinire said, I can't even start explaining how bad an idea this is, as it completely misses the chance to drag back into the game many 1.0 players that would probably try it if they had some free game time, but having been disappointed once, won't spend money on it without trying it.
    ...you should edit to be:

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Due to new information come to light which I cannot yet share because of NDA, I do not have enough information to conclude anything from my original post. Therefore, I patiently wait for a public response by the dev team.
    Have a nice day.

    Original post:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    FFXIV:ARR includes 30 free days of playtime with purchase for new accounts. However, even though players who own FFXIV Version 1.0 will receive FFXIV:ARR for free, this does not include the 30 free days of play.
    Does this means that 1.0 owners will have to start paying the monthly fee immediately?

    This is a *large* 180 from what was announced previously (for instance here), that clearly stated that there'd be a free trial for PC users before they'd have to pay the monthly fee.

    I'd say a clarification is needed because there are going to be a lot of disappointed people because of this.

    If I didn't completely misinterpret what Hvinire said, I can't even start explaining how bad an idea this is, as it completely misses the chance to drag back into the game many 1.0 players that would probably try it if they had some free game time, but having been disappointed once, won't spend money on it without trying it.
    There we go. you can retain your pride while remaining accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Listerfiend View Post
    Wow, using a personal attack to avoid addressing the OP.
    That's no personal attack, that's a simple statement. You may want to at least show your real identity if you wanna flame. Funny that you'd accuse me of personally attacking when you've done nothing else since when you pulled out your alts in order to flame on this thread.

    Besides, I'll edit my own OP as i very well please, as you have no authority to dictate anything. As a matter of fact, I had edited it already this morning when the new info was posted, but had to remove it as soon as I noticed that Dragonheart's post was a potential breach of the NDA.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Actually, "wild-eyed" theories were coming from both sides of this argument. And the obvious intention of your statement was to insult someone and start the argument all over again. Are you really that bored? There are things out there you could be doing. Go find them.
    Exactly.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 05-30-2013 at 03:34 AM.

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    Edit: thank you for finally conceding that your OP was not accurate to the facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Edit: Some info has been given by Yoshida solving the issue, unfortunately that info was posted here in potential breach of the beta NDA, so I can't repeat it here. Waiting for an official statement by the dev team on this forum.
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    Last edited by Listerfiend; 05-30-2013 at 03:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listerfiend View Post
    Edit: thank you for finally conceding that your OP was not accurate to the facts.
    My OP was perfectly accurate to the facts we had when it was written (and to the facts officially shared at the moment). There's nothing to concede.

    The OP simply explains a situation and asks for a clarification, that still hasn't been given officially.

    I have nothing to hide. Apparently you do since you had to pull out two alts just to flame here.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 05-30-2013 at 03:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    blah blah blah words
    not even gonna start with you today, broski. you have yourself a nice day. <3
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    can't find the word "promise" in there for the life of me >.> I do see alot of "subject to change" though specially since in that roadmap 2.0 would already be released lol. Maybe they decided to instead just let ppl beta test?
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    1.0 players got 2 years of free play, and we're getting tons and tons of perks with the relaunch. So what if we have to pay the monthly fee the first month?

    Give the entitlement a rest.
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    Okay, enough already.

    Look, the truth of the matter is, speculation and half-baked rumors have been flying to and fro from both sides of this argument. Everyone had a lot to say, and no one really knew the truth about the situation. Now, we do. It's over. Finished. Finito. The issue is over, done, and overdone. All that's left now is to start flaming each other for no reason. And really, who wants to go there? (Well, besides the obvious trolls) We all have the info that was sought. Now, stop. Just... stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkenoe View Post
    1.0 players got 2 years of free play, and we're getting tons and tons of perks with the relaunch. So what if we have to pay the monthly fee the first month?

    Give the entitlement a rest.
    Yes please. I hinted at this like 15 hours ago. I had a great night sleep too.
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