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    Posting in the Lore thread because...

    I have a question about the dragoon AF. Why does it have spurs?

    But while I'm asking, is there any particular lore surrounding the AF armor besides it just looking cool? We know the lore behind the Relic weapons only somewhat but the armor is a mystery.

    WAR Helmets look like Behemoth horns. Is there any significance?

    Is there lore for the AF gear?
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    I would imagine it's related to the jump ability. If you spend a lot of time in the air while waving a spear around, you either learn to be good at acrobatics or accept that your life expectancy is radically reduced. Once you get good at the martial art of it, having blades and spurs on the feet that are flying around only seems natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I would imagine it's related to the jump ability. If you spend a lot of time in the air while waving a spear around, you either learn to be good at acrobatics or accept that your life expectancy is radically reduced. Once you get good at the martial art of it, having blades and spurs on the feet that are flying around only seems natural.
    I only know spurs in reference to "riding things". But I guess if a Dragoon were like a fighting cockrooster then I guess it can be thought of as weapons too...

    lol Dragonriders of Eorzea hehehe. Just had a vision. Hopefully we'll get us some AF lore tidbits with this line.

    *sigh* I never seem to be able to attract a lore post... Maybe I should use a better lure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Maybe I should use a better lure.
    D'aw. There's totally lore behind it, it's just generally focused on WHO'S it was and not WHAT it is. I'll do some digging anyway :P

    The riding is always a possibility. Some dragoons do, indeed, tame their prey in the end... but I imagine it'd take a lot more than a spur to get through the scales.
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    I'd say a big reason why it's "spikey" is if a dragon like Nidhogg were to eat a Dragoon, at least the armor would damage the dragon/wym's insides. Then again they might use the spikes as toothpicks, dragons are notoriously hygienic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Posting in the Lore thread because...

    I have a question about the dragoon AF. Why does it have spurs?

    But while I'm asking, is there any particular lore surrounding the AF armor besides it just looking cool? We know the lore behind the Relic weapons only somewhat but the armor is a mystery.

    WAR Helmets look like Behemoth horns. Is there any significance?

    Is there lore for the AF gear?
    Dragoons are from Ishgard correct? and what else used to be the biggest thing from Ishgard? Chocobos... The spurs are for chocobo riding as all the dragoons are from that area and would probably use the chocobo to get to where the dragon is before leaping into the fray!!

    The blades and spikes on the armor can also be taken as the whole body of the dragoon is a weapon to be used in killing...

    The cat is amused =^.^=
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    I only know spurs in reference to "riding things". But I guess if a Dragoon were like a fighting cockrooster then I guess it can be thought of as weapons too...

    lol Dragonriders of Eorzea hehehe. Just had a vision. Hopefully we'll get us some AF lore tidbits with this line.

    *sigh* I never seem to be able to attract a lore post... Maybe I should use a better lure.
    Dragonriders of Hydaelyn! *Sends a Runner to Fort Hold with a message saying the Dragonriders will defend Eorzea from Thread as long as there is proper tithe.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by NadienKirisame View Post
    Dragoons are from Ishgard correct? and what else used to be the biggest thing from Ishgard? Chocobos... The spurs are for chocobo riding as all the dragoons are from that area and would probably use the chocobo to get to where the dragon is before leaping into the fray!!

    The blades and spikes on the armor can also be taken as the whole body of the dragoon is a weapon to be used in killing...

    The cat is amused =^.^=
    This will be the third or fourth time I've linked their historical origin. Dragoons were cavalry that also wielded guns (sometimes lances) with bayonets. Put Nael van Darnus (with his gunhalberd) or a Musketeer on a chocobo and you'd have a more accurate Dragoon than anything currently playable.

    That being said, Square-Enix as a whole has made references to Dragoons riding dragons since FF2. Most notably, Drakengard (also named Drag-On Dragoon in Japanese) focuses all of its gameplay on switching between ground and dragon-mounted combat, and the characters even Jump to their dragons, and deal slight damage when they Jump back down. The difference being they can stay riding their dragon and even guide its flight and attacks, though the Dragon's involvement is entirely voluntary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by NadienKirisame View Post
    Dragoons are from Ishgard correct? and what else used to be the biggest thing from Ishgard? Chocobos... The spurs are for chocobo riding as all the dragoons are from that area and would probably use the chocobo to get to where the dragon is before leaping into the fray!!

    The blades and spikes on the armor can also be taken as the whole body of the dragoon is a weapon to be used in killing...

    The cat is amused =^.^=
    To further expand on your point. The Ishgardian Dragoons are actually their cavalry, the 'Azure Dragoon' is who we know as the DRG job. If you did pay attention their units in Coerthas were called dragoons.
    The original Azure Dragoon WAS a dragoon, and his armor if I remember correctly does not have a mythical origin before him, it was simply his armor and that is it's mythical origin. So he was a rider, makes sense he uses armor like that of a rider.
    Also whereas the large spikes on the back of the Dragoon armor are definitely due to Kain's original design having wing-like spikes in the back, one could also identify those as flight aids as well as what what you said, you have no idea how much a few guiding fins can help in flight.

    The only other AF armors I remember the lore clearly are the White Mage outfit:
    (it was the vestments used in old times by the white mages, specially fit for their arts. The exception is the body piece. The body piece is Oha-Sok)

    And the Paladin outfit:
    (much more mundane, it is armor exclusively made for the Paladins, the Ul'Dahn royal guard. Every paladin has a set made for them and finding it in secluded regions is a test of skill. Case in point, yours is kind of... Stolen/Not for you, because your addition to the Paladins was a little bit unorthodox, but nontheless correct. Hell, the assassin in part of that quest is wearing PLD AF body piece)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    This will be the third or fourth time I've linked their historical origin. Dragoons were cavalry that also wielded guns (sometimes lances) with bayonets. Put Nael van Darnus (with his gunhalberd) or a Musketeer on a chocobo and you'd have a more accurate Dragoon than anything currently playable.

    That being said, Square-Enix as a whole has made references to Dragoons riding dragons since FF2. Most notably, Drakengard (also named Drag-On Dragoon in Japanese) focuses all of its gameplay on switching between ground and dragon-mounted combat, and the characters even Jump to their dragons, and deal slight damage when they Jump back down. The difference being they can stay riding their dragon and even guide its flight and attacks, though the Dragon's involvement is entirely voluntary.
    Yes but we are talking about the dragoons in FFXIV :P Not saying you are wrong or anything however I do not think the dragoons of Ishgard would ever use a dragon for anything not even as a mount as Ishgard has always been at war with the dragons and does anything and everything to kill them.

    It is more likely as I eluded to and Skies pointed out... The Ishgard cavalry is in fact call the dragoons...

    The cat is amused =^.^=
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