Thread: Please let those that already own FFXIV 1.0 purchase preorder privileges

Originally Posted by Nix

The biggest problem with this is that it's NOT about paying the $30 to get the items, it's being forced to buy an entirely new copy of the game that would be wasted to get them.

To which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?

And while I'm sure we'd see threads instead titled along the lines saying "Vanity items cost too much!" and player's have the right to express that on the forums, that is what the company has chosen to do, much to how they have decided to include these items as a pre-order privilege and not allowed the ability to upgrade a 'pre-order' status. (Because lets face, it you'd be buying the items at that point- not a 'pre-order' status.)

While you have every right to argue or give an opinion why it shouldn't have happened. It did, and that was the companies choice to do so. As Hiir posted a few pages back;

Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Well, they've already made the decision and people have already started preordering copies of the game. How are they supposed to change it now without facing further backlash?

The companies decision was to include the items in a pre-order privilege. If they were to change it at this point they would have to re-give a chance to all those who have already bought the game simply for the items; much as they are in turn giving the chance to those who would not have bought the game again just for the in game items.

So whether it happens at this point is really irrelevant, I'm just posting valid points why the company will not do this at this point. To why I say this thread is beating the dead horse.

Lol. But as always everyone has entitlement to an opinion on these forums no?

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

To which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?

It'd be really stupid for them to do that seeing as the game itself was $29.99... Where I can see where you're coming from, you already know the answer to that question would be a resounding 'yes' because who would pay $30 just for fluff and no game, when the package for both is the same price?
If we're gonna throw dollar amounts around let's make them reasonable and not something that would bait an argument.

As for pre-orders that have already gone out; You can cancel pre-orders e_e lol so no one would be out anything if they decided to switch it up.

If SE does turn around and say "Hey, we are not going to offer the fluff items separately." I wouldn't mind at all, I was kinda wishful thinking that it may have been an oversight not to offer the items. It'd suck not to get them but I'm not going to foam at the mouth over it.

No one's making demands here, it's just a simple question of "Hey, would you give us a way to obtain these items without making us purchase something we have already purchased in the past".

If we're going to post our opinions, let's try to make them sound less insulting.

Edit: in my post I'm only talking about the pre-order items and not the CE stuff (Since that's already being offered), just don't want any confooshun.

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

To which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?

That's a bit of a silly question. The value of the items/early access is obviously not 30 bucks. That's the price of the games. The preorder bonuses are just that, a bonus.

A reasonable fee for two in-game items and the early access would be between 5 and 10 bucks.

By the way, the "they already decided!" argument is a flawed one. This forum is made for feedback and criticism, and nothing says that they simply didn't overlook the possibility, and that they can't change their mind and add the option if there's enough demand.

Incidentally, the items you named (harpsicord and tidal talisman) weren't "highly priced". They were bonuses for the purchase of physical goods, hence they were free. A bonus has no price.

In this case, it's a simple matter of convenience for both users and Square Enix. It's rather obvious that only a vast minority will repurchase something they already are entitled to get for free for a full price. And Square Enix doesn't even get a net gain of $30 for all those purchases. Including all the manifacturing and distribution/retail fees, it's a miracle if they get $10 per box, and they won't sell many of those box to those that already have an account.

On the other hand, offer the bonuses for a reasonable price, and you'll get roughly the same net gain per unit, selling an exponentially higher quantity of units.

Again, I keep being baffled by those that oppose Square Enix giving people more option to give them money. In commerce offering different options is almost always positive.

"Please Square Enix, don't give us stuff (even if we'd pay for it) heavens forbid you spoil us!"

Lol

Originally Posted by Abriael

That's a bit of a silly question. The value of the items/early access is obviously not 30 bucks. That's the price of the games. The preorder bonuses are just that, a bonus.

A reasonable fee for two in-game items and the early access would be between 5 and 10 bucks.

By the way, the "they already decided!" argument is a flawed one. This forum is made for feedback and criticism, and nothing says that they simply didn't overlook the possibility, and that they can't change their mind and add the option if there's enough demand.

Incidentally, the items you named (harpsicord and tidal talisman) weren't "highly priced". They were bonuses for the purchase of physical goods, hence they were free. A bonus has no price.

In this case, it's a simple matter of convenience for both users and Square Enix. It's rather obvious that only a vast minority will repurchase something they already are entitled to get for free for a full price. And Square Enix doesn't even get a net gain of $30 for all those purchases. Including all the manifacturing and distribution/retail fees, it's a miracle if they get $10 per box, and they won't sell many of those box to those that already have an account.

On the other hand, offer the bonuses for a reasonable price, and you'll get roughly the same net gain per unit, selling an exponentially higher quantity of units.

Again, I keep being baffled by those that oppose Square Enix giving people more option to give them money. In commerce offering different options is almost always positive.

"Please Square Enix, don't give us stuff (even if we'd pay for it) heavens forbid you spoil us!"

Lol

I think people keep forgetting when we say 29.99$ we mean for all 6 items.

Helm of light,Coeurl Mount,Behemoth Barding,Baby Behemoth Minion and Cait sith doll minion/Mog Cap

We asking if we can pre-order the CE upgrade and just make it 25$ or 30$ and add the two pre-order items. We know there not going to do so it just hopeful wishing.

Originally Posted by Abriael

1: that's not what she was talking about

2: just allowing people to preorder the CE upgrade does not solve the problem, as it would penalize those that purchased the 1.0 collector's edition to begin with, which would be paradoxical.

Can't make everyone happy anyways i don't see us getting the pre-order items anyways. The people who really want it they just have to pre-order the game sadly