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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teloc View Post
    The lack of early start for people who bought v 1.0 is very poor judgement. A lot of people bought the CE and SE in 1.0 for the early release and sure we got to play a week early, but look how many left because of that. 3-7 Days of an early start is huge in a MMO. Most of the people who aren't Legacy are going to head to new servers and are now behind up to a week because why should they re-buy the game. I though SE wants its old players to return and try out the game again, those of us who are of a competitive nature don't want to return to a game and be behind everyone by a week.

    I've been told to pre-order and register the code, then just cancel the pre-order later. This method while giving those of us non-legacy the pre-order bonus it also takes them away from new players. There is already a divide between legacy and non with a whole lot of "I'm better than you" from them. SE you need to stop making it a bigger divide or you will ruin your own community.

    This is causing quite a few of my friends to not even want to give the game another chance, since a late start is massive in a mmo.
    Legacy is kinda.. already the community, because they stuck around to take care, and support this "crippled dog." Any New player/ff fan will not care or be proud of such a feat, and will be proud to be apart of/join the already established community.

    Haters are always gonna hate. And in definition aren't part of the solution, or community
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  2. #72
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    I have a feeling the pre-order items will become available for purchase sometime in the future. Though it may take a few months because SE wants to optimize pre-order numbers. $10 sounds very reasonable for Cait Sith and the Mog Cap after launch. Right now SE is providing us with a way to show our support and get some cool items. Which I'm ok with. (Insert "Shut up and take my money!")

    I own the 1.0 Collector's but pre-ordered the PS3 Collector's from SE yesterday for the physical items, the pre-order items, to have FFXIV ready for the PS4, and to thank Square Enix. Yoshida and the team have worked their asses off to make ARR an MMO deserving of the name "Final Fantasy." Square Enix is hoping we'll take the opportunity to show them some love by upgrading to Digital Collector's or picking up a new copy.

    Pre-order from the SE store, give them your money instead of a third party. SE will give you a code for early access, you'll probably be leveling Arcanist before your physical copy shows up in the mail. They'll take care of us. They're coming through on their promises.

    Most of us that read these threads have followed ARR for quite a while. All of you likely played more than I did. I didn't come back until the final month. But I signed up for my vacation days this morning, I'm psyched about ARR. I think y'all are too.

    I hope Yoshi-P gets to brag about pre-order numbers at E3.

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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyhagun View Post
    Legacy is kinda.. already the community, because they stuck around to take care, and support this "crippled dog." Any New player/ff fan will not care or be proud of such a feat, and will be proud to be apart of/join the already established community.

    Haters are always gonna hate. And in definition aren't part of the solution, or community
    Sorry, but this is the most nonsensical thing I heard in the whole thread. Now those that aren't legacy aren't part of the community?

    Belonging to the community isn't measured by how much money one paid, and mind you, it's entirely possible to be legacy and having paid less than someone that isn't (IE, someone that bought the CE and paid for two months, and someone that got the standard but paid for three months just to get legacy privileges, and I know people in both positions).

    This has nothing to do with "haters". No one here is "hating".

    Quote Originally Posted by Castius View Post
    I have a feeling the pre-order items will become available for purchase sometime in the future. Though it may take a few months because SE wants to optimize pre-order numbers. $10 sounds very reasonable for Cait Sith and the Mog Cap after launch. Right now SE is providing us with a way to show our support and get some cool items. Which I'm ok with. (Insert "Shut up and take my money!")
    No. SE isn't "providing with a way to show our support". The preorder campaign isn't made for the existing players unless one wants the physical collectors or the PS3 version. It's made for those that never bought FFXIV. I'm sorry, but it's not very realistic to believe that SE is banking on people buying the PC version twice. Their number will be negligible anyway in the grand scheme of things.

    To be completely honest encouraging people to buy what SE (rightfully) decided to give them for free is quite the anti-consumer stance, and basically encourages the company to take advantage of people's passion for the game in a quite underhanded way, thing that I don't believe they're doing, as they probably just overlooked the possibility.
    What SE needs is people to come back and try the game in big numbers (which is why they're giving the game away for free), and to stick with it and pay the monthly fee.

    Allowing existing players to purchase the preorder bonuses for a fee is *exactly* a way to give existing players a further way to support the game, and a reasonable one (as expecting them to buy a product that they already own isn't reasonable), that transforms into an almost 100% net gain for SE, without flying in the face of logic.

    Preorders aren't a "way to show support". They're a way for companies to gauge how many copies of a game they need to print without leaving too many unsold ones on the shelves, and for MMORPGs, they're even more important, as they provide a way to gauge how many players will hit the servers at release. As a matter of fact by encouraging people that already own the game to preorder, you encourage them to throw off those statistics, and as many other games demonstrated, launching a MMO with too many servers is everything but healthy for a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    Well, I'll be pre-ordering another copy anyway, so it doesn't make a difference to me. So I'd be bias on this topic.
    Me too =D i want the soundtrack and goodies!
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castius View Post
    I have a feeling the pre-order items will become available for purchase sometime in the future. Though it may take a few months because SE wants to optimize pre-order numbers. $10 sounds very reasonable for Cait Sith and the Mog Cap after launch. Right now SE is providing us with a way to show our support and get some cool items. Which I'm ok with. (Insert "Shut up and take my money!")
    I doubt this is the case, if nearly a decade of FFXI is any indication. Once promotional items are gone, there is virtually no chance of scoring that same item, barring the release of a "different" item that shares the same model. I think the P2p subscription model strongly discourages the formation of "cash shop" content, which is pretty much what this thread has been asking for.
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    SE please allow us to pre-order the digital upgrade (and get the pre-order bonuses along with it)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    SE please allow us to pre-order the digital upgrade (and get the pre-order bonuses along with it)!
    This wouldn't really be sufficient, as it would exclude those that got the 1.0 CE in the first place.
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    I had the 1.0 CE and Legacy, but I already pre-ordered the ARR CE cuz I want the actual physical stuff that comes with it. The only downside I see to the system is that I've just taken away an early access code from someone who might actually need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    I had the 1.0 CE and Legacy, but I already pre-ordered the ARR CE cuz I want the actual physical stuff that comes with it. The only downside I see to the system is that I've just taken away an early access code from someone who might actually need it.
    Then give that early access to a friend who does not have legacy or have money to buy the game .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    This wouldn't really be sufficient, as it would exclude those that got the 1.0 CE in the first place.
    Of course I rather they allow us to buy pre-order status (or whatever name you choose to pick for it lol) but since the digital upgrade is an already exsisting product, they could just let us pre-order it like the rest of the products, thought It'd help if I pointed it out that way.

    I want that mog cap ( ' ^ '
    I'm Legacy too but I got the 1.0 standard
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