Thread: Please let those that already own FFXIV 1.0 purchase preorder privileges

I think my reasonable price would be - $10 for the pre order items, since it's only 2 items and the CE items are being listed at $20 (I would totally go a bit higher though as long as it wasn't super extortionate lol). Paying another $20 for less items doesn't seem so cool D:

That being said, I have to note that this would not include any codes for early access etc, it'd literally just be for the ingame items.

This would put all the fluff items at a combined total of $30, which is pretty reasonable (I think, at least).

We could order the items if we pre-ordered the game, but we've already got our copy of the game so there's no point in getting another to collect dust. Some people may have a friend who'd take the copy off their hands, but all my friends that play MMOs already have the game so it'd literally sit on my shelf and weep.

As far as I've seen (I have been kinda derping this week), I have not seen a rep anywhere say "The only way you'll definitely be able to get these items is through pre-order." I haven't seen a rep shoot down Abriel's request anywhere.

They're allowing people to digitally upgrade to CE for a fee, why not pre-order? It'd be pretty much the same deal, trade cash for fluff.

The biggest problem with this is that it's NOT about paying the $30 to get the items, it's being forced to buy an entirely new copy of the game that would be wasted to get them.
If I didn't already own XIV, I wouldn't give it a second thought, but I do. Pre-ordering a game you already own and have played really stinks.

Originally Posted by Nix

The biggest problem with this is that it's NOT about paying the $30 to get the items, it's being forced to buy an entirely new copy of the game that would be wasted to get them.

To which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?

And while I'm sure we'd see threads instead titled along the lines saying "Vanity items cost too much!" and player's have the right to express that on the forums, that is what the company has chosen to do, much to how they have decided to include these items as a pre-order privilege and not allowed the ability to upgrade a 'pre-order' status. (Because lets face, it you'd be buying the items at that point- not a 'pre-order' status.)

While you have every right to argue or give an opinion why it shouldn't have happened. It did, and that was the companies choice to do so. As Hiir posted a few pages back;

Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Well, they've already made the decision and people have already started preordering copies of the game. How are they supposed to change it now without facing further backlash?

The companies decision was to include the items in a pre-order privilege. If they were to change it at this point they would have to re-give a chance to all those who have already bought the game simply for the items; much as they are in turn giving the chance to those who would not have bought the game again just for the in game items.

So whether it happens at this point is really irrelevant, I'm just posting valid points why the company will not do this at this point. To why I say this thread is beating the dead horse.

Lol. But as always everyone has entitlement to an opinion on these forums no?

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

I'm curious what a reasonable price is to you? If these items together were offered at $19.99 would that be enough for you?

And if taking the game Final Fantasy XIV: ARR out of the equation and Square Enix offered minions and or vanity items in the future priced at $9.99-14.99 would we just be seeing threads titled "Vanity items too much!" pop up?

While I don't per say disagree with what your asking, Square has already stated this is how you get the pre-order privileges and have decided to package minions along with those privileges. If you don't think $29.99 is a reasonable price to entitle yourself to these additional items then you can move on and be on your way. Other than the fact everyone has a right to one's opinion and the forums is a place to post that...or complain about it...

It seems like it's really coming down to your not willing to pay for the price they're asking for. Thus I'm curious if these items were simply priced at $29.99 alone without the game would this thread still exist? Or would we have another thread titled "These Vanity items are priced too high..."

Just think it's beating a dead horse when it's already been stated how to obtain these privilages... but again your entitled to your opinion and ability to post about it.

If pre-order items and the CE upgrade together was price at 29.99$ yes i would buy it without issue. Because if i pre-order the game that would cost me 30+$ then 19.99$ to pay for the upgrade to get the CE items. Overall i don't see the issue on 1.0 players willing to pay for 6 items together such a hard thing to ask.

I guess the people that really want the Pre-order items would just have to go to gamestop pay 5$ get the pre-order code and never pick up the game vs us paying SE straight up.

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

To which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?

It'd be really stupid for them to do that seeing as the game itself was $29.99... Where I can see where you're coming from, you already know the answer to that question would be a resounding 'yes' because who would pay $30 just for fluff and no game, when the package for both is the same price?
If we're gonna throw dollar amounts around let's make them reasonable and not something that would bait an argument.

As for pre-orders that have already gone out; You can cancel pre-orders e_e lol so no one would be out anything if they decided to switch it up.

If SE does turn around and say "Hey, we are not going to offer the fluff items separately." I wouldn't mind at all, I was kinda wishful thinking that it may have been an oversight not to offer the items. It'd suck not to get them but I'm not going to foam at the mouth over it.

No one's making demands here, it's just a simple question of "Hey, would you give us a way to obtain these items without making us purchase something we have already purchased in the past".

If we're going to post our opinions, let's try to make them sound less insulting.

Edit: in my post I'm only talking about the pre-order items and not the CE stuff (Since that's already being offered), just don't want any confooshun.

While I do agree $29.99 wouldn't go over with the masses, I believe there are players (including myself) who would be willing to pay decent sums of money for vanity items whether or not I'm paying that amount for the actual in game item or a physical item attached to it.


And while I agree we'd be the minority. I do believe there are those who will throw there money at Square Enix for in-game items, and Square Enix knows this.

While this does not justify the argument any more it's happened before in a previous MMO they've had...

FFXI had items priced highly (although they did come with items, many players bought it simply for the in-game item)

Tidal Talisment
(Might I add this was released during Einherjar prime days and many end game players bought it simply for the quick teleport to Nashamu)

Harpscord
(While it did come with a CD and many did buy it for the OST, there were others including myself who simply bought it for the mog house item)

So again, While I don't disagree with asking for the ability to buy the items alone, Square Enix does have evidence to show players will spend decent sums of money ($30+) even when it is attached to a physical item, many bought it simply for the in-game item rather than the physical item and the choice to buy them separately was not an option.

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

While I do agree $29.99 wouldn't go over with the masses, I believe there are players (including myself) who would be willing to pay decent sums of money for vanity items.


And while I agree we'd be the minority. I do believe there are those who will throw there money at Square Enix for in-game items, and Square Enix knows this.

While this does not justify the argument any more it's happened before in a previous MMO they've had...

FFXI had items priced highly (although they did come with items, many players bought it simply for the in-game item)

Tidal Talisment
(Might I add this was released during Einherjar prime days and many end game players bought it simply for the quick teleport to Nashamu)

Harpscord


So again, While I don't disagree with asking for the ability to buy the items alone, Square Enix does have evidence to show players will spend decent sums of money ($30+) even when it is attached to a physical item, many bought it simply for the in-game item rather than the physical item and the choice to buy them separately was not an option.

Haha for sure, there are those who would sell their firstborn for the items, sadly I'm not one of those chaps .

I'm frugal as heck so even parting with the $20 for the CE upgrade is not something I'd usually do; these items only really come around once and it'd be nice to 'invest' (I guess that's the term?) in them.

I'd hate to miss out on the moogle cap but I just can't bring myself to pre-order the game and then have it go to waste lol ; ;. If I had someone who'd take the code and actually put it to use, then I would feel a lot better about it.

I do remember when the talisman first came out, people would be offering large sums of money in whitegate shouts for a talisman-port haha (Because waiting on the boat is soooooooo CoP!).

I have to admit, it really is wishful thinking on my part that they 'may' offer a different way to get the pre-order stuff, where the probability of it actually happening is really rather slim lol ;;. Hell, if they did offer another way to get them I'm sure there would be more people who would fork out the extra $10~$15~$whatever to get it because they wouldn't be forced to purchase something they already had. It could work out really well!

Aaaah~ sweet, sweet coffee *sip*

Have a wonderful day Nari

Agreed'd - And for the record, I missed out on the tidal talisman and I regretted it every single time I had to go to einherjar. From that day I vow'd to buy every. single. vanity. item.

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

Agreed'd - And for the record, I missed out on the tidal talisman and I regretted it every single time I had to go to einherjar. From that day I vow'd to buy every. single. vanity. item.

Oh no! haha, I would have loved the necklace but every time I pulled the product page up my husband gave me a death stare that not even 50 grilled cheese sammiches could placate. In the end I relented.

(But I did get revenge by sticking a bunch of hot sauce in his lunch, so all was not lost! XD)

Originally Posted by NarikoStar

To which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?

That's a bit of a silly question. The value of the items/early access is obviously not 30 bucks. That's the price of the games. The preorder bonuses are just that, a bonus.

A reasonable fee for two in-game items and the early access would be between 5 and 10 bucks.

By the way, the "they already decided!" argument is a flawed one. This forum is made for feedback and criticism, and nothing says that they simply didn't overlook the possibility, and that they can't change their mind and add the option if there's enough demand.

Incidentally, the items you named (harpsicord and tidal talisman) weren't "highly priced". They were bonuses for the purchase of physical goods, hence they were free. A bonus has no price.

In this case, it's a simple matter of convenience for both users and Square Enix. It's rather obvious that only a vast minority will repurchase something they already are entitled to get for free for a full price. And Square Enix doesn't even get a net gain of $30 for all those purchases. Including all the manifacturing and distribution/retail fees, it's a miracle if they get $10 per box, and they won't sell many of those box to those that already have an account.

On the other hand, offer the bonuses for a reasonable price, and you'll get roughly the same net gain per unit, selling an exponentially higher quantity of units.

Again, I keep being baffled by those that oppose Square Enix giving people more option to give them money. In commerce offering different options is almost always positive.

"Please Square Enix, don't give us stuff (even if we'd pay for it) heavens forbid you spoil us!"

Lol

Originally Posted by Abriael

That's a bit of a silly question. The value of the items/early access is obviously not 30 bucks. That's the price of the games. The preorder bonuses are just that, a bonus.

A reasonable fee for two in-game items and the early access would be between 5 and 10 bucks.

By the way, the "they already decided!" argument is a flawed one. This forum is made for feedback and criticism, and nothing says that they simply didn't overlook the possibility, and that they can't change their mind and add the option if there's enough demand.

Incidentally, the items you named (harpsicord and tidal talisman) weren't "highly priced". They were bonuses for the purchase of physical goods, hence they were free. A bonus has no price.

In this case, it's a simple matter of convenience for both users and Square Enix. It's rather obvious that only a vast minority will repurchase something they already are entitled to get for free for a full price. And Square Enix doesn't even get a net gain of $30 for all those purchases. Including all the manifacturing and distribution/retail fees, it's a miracle if they get $10 per box, and they won't sell many of those box to those that already have an account.

On the other hand, offer the bonuses for a reasonable price, and you'll get roughly the same net gain per unit, selling an exponentially higher quantity of units.

Again, I keep being baffled by those that oppose Square Enix giving people more option to give them money. In commerce offering different options is almost always positive.

"Please Square Enix, don't give us stuff (even if we'd pay for it) heavens forbid you spoil us!"

Lol

I think people keep forgetting when we say 29.99$ we mean for all 6 items.

Helm of light,Coeurl Mount,Behemoth Barding,Baby Behemoth Minion and Cait sith doll minion/Mog Cap

We asking if we can pre-order the CE upgrade and just make it 25$ or 30$ and add the two pre-order items. We know there not going to do so it just hopeful wishing.