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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    And we should try to keep it that way by not being poor winners, no?
    We? Are you royalty?

    I think it is ACN > SCH, I can't imagine they would announce a job without an existing base class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    We? Are you royalty?
    I think she was trying to be nice by assuming none of us are "poor winners".

    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    I think it is ACN > SCH, I can't imagine they would announce a job without an existing base class.
    That may be, but then SMN is without a class. Unless perhaps ACN is the class for 2 jobs, which would be a new thing. Such speculation is what her post was mostly about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    I think she was trying to be nice by assuming none of us are "poor winners".


    That may be, but then SMN is without a class. Unless perhaps ACN is the class for 2 jobs, which would be a new thing. Such speculation is what her post was mostly about.
    My told ya so was good natured ribbing but I appreciate the sentiment by both parties.

    I think they will both be Arcanist based. I may be wrong but Yoshi has talked about multiple jobs per class. Giving examples such as GLA > DRK in addition to GLA > PLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    This makes a lot of issues, though. Will it also unlock at level 30 alongside Summoner? You quest to unlock jobs

    Can I just grind on one and get experience on both?Experience is not tied to Jobs, it is tied to the base class so if you have a 50 Arcanist before you unlock scholar, when you unlock it you are a 50 scholar. Job abilities are quested
    Answered your questions that are already answered.
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    Q30: Could you show us an in-game footage of the Armoury Chest?

    A30: In ARR, you have the ability to change into different classes/jobs on a single character. Due to this, players often have to carry a large amount of equipment in their inventory. During the previous Beta Tests, we received numerous feedback about the usability of the gear set. We discussed the matter internally and we believe this is the best way to satisfy everyone’s needs.

    All equipment will be stored in your Armoury Chest and you will be able to store up to 25 items per slot. In addition, you will be able to equip and repair by clicking on the item. As for the gear set, you will be able to select any item within the Armoury Chest and therefore will no longer need to prepare multiple items of the same type if the item is equipped by multiple classes/jobs.


    It does not say here but they also said that there are 8 slots for the Soul Crystals (jobs)
    so scholar won't have a soul crystal? or both Scholar and Arcanist becomes summoner?
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    It does not say here but they also said that there are 8 slots for the Soul Crystals (jobs)
    so scholar won't have a soul crystal? or both Scholar and Arcanist becomes summoner?
    Or they add another slot for any new jobs, including SCH? There's space in the dialog for up to 25 slots.
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 05-31-2013 at 10:22 AM. Reason: Added image

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    This makes a lot of issues, though. Will it also unlock at level 30 alongside Summoner? You quest to unlock jobs

    Can I just grind on one and get experience on both?Experience is not tied to Jobs, it is tied to the base class so if you have a 50 Arcanist before you unlock scholar, when you unlock it you are a 50 scholar. Job abilities are quested
    Answered your questions that are already answered.
    These aren't really answers to what I was actually asking, though.

    I'm fully aware that you quest to unlock jobs, but that begins at level 30. My question was not whether or not there was a quest involved, but rather would hitting level 30 on Arcanist allow you to quest for both the Summoner and the Scholar soul crystals or is one a higher "tier" than the other. Presumably they will at least have different subclass (level 15) requirements.

    As for your second point, experience may be tied to the class in code, but in practice it's shared between each class and its respective job. If I complete a quest as an Archer I gain experience on my Bard, but similarly if I quest on my Bard I will gain experience on my Archer. If Summoner and Scholar both evolve from Arcanist in the same way that v1 jobs did that means that questing on my Summoner will let me gain experience on my Arcanist and, having gained experience on my Arcanist, should also let me gain experience on my Scholar. My question to the community was simply do you think this is how it will work? And, if not, what do you think will be done instead?

    As for the other post you directed at me, the clarification you got from ArkhamNative was precisely what I meant, including his(her?) point about my main goal just being general speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Or they add another slot for any new jobs, including SCH? There's space in the dialog for up to 25 slots.
    Without SMN, SCH, or ACN (none of which will be in the beta) there are 25 classes and jobs, including the DoHs and DoLs. From their original announcement about gear sets way back before the armory chest had been mentioned it was either stated or strongly implied that we'd have a set for each class. Hopefully that's still the case (especially with all this new CSE they've promised), and at launch we'll have either 28 or 29 slots, depending on if SCH has a new class. ...Of course, that doesn't explain why there's already a slot for an 8th job crystal. :s
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    Last edited by Xeia; 05-31-2013 at 10:39 AM.

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    I'm firmly in the camp of there being a new class to underlay Scholar with the respective guild either in one of the starting cities or one of the other, expanded, settlements around Eorzea.

    I did wonder about the 8-slot job crystal window. My take that the Beta will not have the 9th job ready and the 9th slot will be added in when SCH or SMN is attainable. Though that seems a little tenuous. Maybe when the chest was designed, only 8 jobs were confirmed and the whole SCH thing is a relatively recent addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    I'm firmly in the camp of there being a new class to underlay Scholar with the respective guild either in one of the starting cities or one of the other, expanded, settlements around Eorzea.

    I did wonder about the 8-slot job crystal window. My take that the Beta will not have the 9th job ready and the 9th slot will be added in when SCH or SMN is attainable. Though that seems a little tenuous. Maybe when the chest was designed, only 8 jobs were confirmed and the whole SCH thing is a relatively recent addition.
    I agree it seems Scholar was a recent addition to the game, should have it's own crystal to place the "Soul of the Scholar"? in it. I know we have a bit to wait to find out details..but there's some who have said scholar won't be tied to any actual job.

    I don't see the doing arcanist and having the story branch out to scholar. Though when it comes to implementing the job, should still have the same restrictions as normal jobs in terms of cross class abilities it can use and from what classes. But to just randomly toss out a class? would seem a little off. Maybe they don't see the need to offer a new class just for scholar but instead will have it a game requirement to obtain certain levels and go do the scholar quest, tied to classes but not by experience or lore. Would give those who start ARR with all 50's another class to level.

    This is all just me guessing, I'm okay with being wrong. Just killing time until E3 and release.
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    Methinks that they've changed the classes, so that

    ACN > SCH
    EVK > SMN

    (EVK = Evoker)

    Which isn't really that difficult to edit at this stage in development, and would also explain why the SCH is shown holding a Grimoire (if it's not a Tome) whereas the SMN doesn't appear to be using a weapon at all yet. But that's just my 2 cents.

    As you were.
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