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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Right, which is why TERA is in such horrible shape from hackers and RMT that they're not even sure it'll have enough subscriptions on release to sustain the game. Yes that sounds EXACTLY like what I want FFXIV to become. I've read every single thing about TERA, watched every video, seen every SS. Heard everything from complaints about the graphics changes to the lawsuits from other Korean Grind-fest producers.

    That sounds so game-changing and innovative, a Korean grind fest full of hackers, OMG BRAND NEW!
    This whole post....

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    I am not sure I could answer this question I have not played tera so I cannot comment on anything. Alot of the stuff look interesting, but as we all know looks can be deceiving when you try them.

    The whole Action MMO thing sorta sounds good but I would have to try it. I would be afraid it would lose all the RPG feeling with that kind of system. And that is what a Final Fantasy is at heart.

    What I would like to see SE take from Tera is the use of placement and more strategy into the fights. To much mindless zerg in FFXIV currently.

    In the end FFXIV needs to be its own thing, can borrow idea but in the end it has to be unique.
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    HEY GUYS LOLOL TERA SUCKS ITS A WOW CLONE BECAUSE THERES UH.. CLASSES AND STUFF AND THERES SO MANY HACKERS FFXI WAS FREE OF HACKERS AND PERFECT IN EVERY WAY HOW DARE YOU TRY TO DISCUSS ANYTHING JUST STOP OKAY JUST STOP AND ITS KOREAN AND WE ALL KNOW EVERYTHING IN ASIA IS BAD ITS A GOOD THING FINAL FANTASY XIV IS MADE IN AMERICA AND GRIND FREE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Honestly the only prominent feature I've seen in TERA so far is the skin shown :P

    The political stuff sounds interesting at first sight, but it's been implemented a lot in MUDs a long time ago, with much smaller/manageable communities, and also in RF online.

    In every single case I experienced it, it turned into a massive source of Drama from which I would gladly steer clear.
    Drama is good though!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexa View Post
    While I do see your point, I just think that if you bring the idea up without referring to other MMO you would get a better respond than... No, No No No, Hell No!, etc.

    well, on your topic, i do agree with long story questlines with voiced cutscenes and group-oriented quests but jump and swim? that doesn't sound so Final Fantasy to me.
    Well sorry that everyone is so insecure, but it's not my responsibility to molly coddle them.

    I think swimming and jumping aren't so removed from FF, as FFX, FFX-2, and FFXIII all had renditions of one or the other. Besides, you have to look at this as an MMO first and a FF second. At some point, one of the final fantasy sets the precedent for the others.

    As I said earlier, Final Fantasy X included swimming though most FF games don't. One day, Final Fantasy XIV is going to have to make a similar progressive step to make itself an interesting, immersive world, even if it means breaking tradition. If it breaks tradition, it can always start its own, as did many FF titles before it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saudrapsmann View Post
    HEY GUYS LOLOL TERA SUCKS ITS A WOW CLONE BECAUSE THERES UH.. CLASSES AND STUFF AND THERES SO MANY HACKERS FFXI WAS FREE OF HACKERS AND PERFECT IN EVERY WAY HOW DARE YOU TRY TO DISCUSS ANYTHING JUST STOP OKAY JUST STOP AND ITS KOREAN AND WE ALL KNOW EVERYTHING IN ASIA IS BAD ITS A GOOD THING FINAL FANTASY XIV IS MADE IN AMERICA AND GRIND FREE
    omg too right dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    omg too right dude
    :P

    I really hope the trolls end up leaving these forums once the whole "These forums are new, I have to go check them out now" thing dies down... Because if people like Kiroh are here to stay then not much discussion is going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saudrapsmann View Post
    :P

    I really hope the trolls end up leaving these forums once the whole "These forums are new, I have to go check them out now" thing dies down... Because if people like Kiroh are here to stay then not much discussion is going to happen.
    My fear is that the developers think they are representative of every player. That's how things like the aggro-indicator are borne!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    My fear is that the developers think they are representative of every player. That's how things like the aggro-indicator are borne!
    "Oh... Well this guy makes me think we should just go back to auto-attacking and having the combat system revolve around that. Or maybe hold X to win and give every mob a million HP like FFXIII?"
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    Of course I'm here to stay. I'm sorry that I've never once found a single game from a Korean producer to be anything but a money grab/grind fest. TERA is nothing different than anything I've seen in other MMOs like it. Race based class limitations, non-changeable classes, hyper-sexualized mostly naked women in gear that can only barely (and generously) be considered a string of dental floss. Tons of grinding, tons of instanced dungeons, nothing innovative to speak of in the combat department except that it's a non-targeting MMO. What part of this is supposed to be the game-changing, innovative thing I'm missing exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Of course I'm here to stay. I'm sorry that I've never once found a single game from a Korean producer to be anything but a money grab/grind fest. TERA is nothing different than anything I've seen in other MMOs like it. Race based class limitations, non-changeable classes, hyper-sexualized mostly naked women in gear that can only barely (and generously) be considered a string of dental floss. Tons of grinding, tons of instanced dungeons, nothing innovative to speak of in the combat department except that it's a non-targeting MMO. What part of this is supposed to be the game-changing, innovative thing I'm missing exactly?
    RTFT
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