Relationships of the Twelve

[jesseleewelch]

To really drive that point home, consider the fact that one of the reasons the Meteor project stupefied the minds of Eorzeans (aside from Cid) was that they believed that Dalamud had always been there as it was related to the Moon, which they believed to be a manifestation of Menphina, "Keeper of the twin moons."

Damn, that is a REALLY good point. I always dismissed the idea that they were elevated Allaghans but I may have to give that idea another look. I never knew Fernehalwes posted that, could I get a link perchance to the thread he posted that in? I want to read it in context with everything else that was said.

[Anonymoose]

I never knew Fernehalwes posted that, could I get a link perchance to the thread he posted that in?

This one wasn't Ferne, it was in-game text from an NPC.

Great Admiral's ghost! The changes exhibited by Dalamud are the Empire's doing!? But how is it possible that an object so enormous and distant─that has existed since the dawn of time─can be at mankind's beck and call? By the Twelve...I find I am inclined to believe it. Gods only know what else the vile Garleans are capable of.

It Kills with Fire (Maelstrom Version)

[Catapult]

I'm sorry, I... just can't resist posting this.

[Anonymoose]

In the trailer we see several figures bathed in blue light flying around the crystal...

Roegadyn in austere attire holding a great axe...

Althyk? That you?

WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

COME DOWN HERE THIS INSTANT.

<Anonymoose paces the room rambling lore facts>
<eyes widen>

When Louisoix set off the teleport at the end of End of an Era, we saw a similar magick glyph, but with Althyk's hourglass inside of it. That, my friends, may very well be the Midlander trapped in time limbo... meeting the Twelve... the guardians of Hydaelyn.

Boom.

[Catapult]

the Midlander had red hair.

=> Character redesign?

[Anonymoose]

the Midlander had red hair.

=> Character redesign?

Unique marking for Legacy players revealed - we'll all be gingers, confirmed.

[Enkidoh]

Bad luck if you're already a redhead.

[Ramesses]

Awww darn it... I'm always behind on keeping up with the great stuff. Had a very busy week so far and whenever I was free, I was too engrossed in watching videos from E3. Wicked new trailer, innit?

Yes, I completely agree with many of you that another facet of examining the concept of the Twelve will be to consider they may have been Allagans who "elevated to godhood"... which I mentioned somewhere above. But then what always bothered me was... who in turn made them and/or gave the Allagans their incredible knowledge?

Also, I think Moose has a point... did you guys also notice that at the end of the trailer there seemed to be (twelve?) smaller crystals orbiting around the larger "mother crystal"? I may have miscounted our perhaps I subconsciously wanted there to be twelve... but that's a thought.

[Catapult]

Unique marking for Legacy players revealed - we'll all be gingers, confirmed.

No no no. You see, what's happened is that upon being placed in the rift by Lou, our bodies were reduced to an aetheritic state, just like when you use Teleport or Return. But rather than pop out instantly we hang around for five years. That's too long for our minds to hold on to a fixed visualization of our true selves, and so our subconciousnesses recreated our physical form in our ideal image of ourselves.

Our dear midlander always wanted to see himself ideally with red hair. So his subconscious gave it to him from five years in the rift.

/speculation

[Anonymoose]

our subconciousnesses recreated our physical form in our ideal image of ourselves.

That would go a long way to explaining some of Eorzea's more recent... uh... developments.