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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    I'm not even going to touch this, but you do realize that you are calling attention to it yourself, right?

    Anyway, as far as changing your name back, just force people to do paid name change. If you go through the trouble of getting married in game and want it undone, it's not their responsibility to baby you. In XI you could never remarry.
    Come on, XIV is not using XI's system. If I recall correctly, before you get married do you have to apply it via PlayOnline? I know it's not their responsibility to baby you and hell I was just joking around. I am sorry if you didn't get it.

    Just force people to do paid name change? It would be so unfair for women...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    Just force people to do paid name change? It would be so unfair for women...
    A woman doesn't have to change their name at marriage, I never did! Plus the couple can always choose a new surname if they really wanted to and start a new lineage instead of going for the more traditional / antiquated taking the surname of the male spouse.

    As for the joking... I didn't get it, it came off as really harsh lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    Come on, XIV is not using XI's system. If I recall correctly, before you get married do you have to apply it via PlayOnline? I know it's not their responsibility to baby you and hell I was just joking around. I am sorry if you didn't get it.

    Just force people to do paid name change? It would be so unfair for women...
    And I wasn't being hostile, despite your joke being at the expense of part of the community. I was just saying you're calling attention to it in this thread yourself.

    Anyway, there's really no reason the system would be unfair to women, you simply flag both player's accounts for name change, and then its up to them to decide what they want to do. The man could take the woman's name, they could make a new family name, whatever they want.

    Hell, RPers and those who follow the lore in naming conventions would be adhering to matronymics in certain cases anyways, and the whole who accepts whom's surname becomes rather foggy. That's why a simple name change flag for both players would cover all the bases, you could just leave your name as is in fact.

    Regardless, as long as they're warned ahead of time whoever accepts the responsibility of changing their name will have to take that risk. The same thing is true in reality.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    As for the joking... I didn't get it, it came off as really harsh lol.
    That's who I am... /shrug lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    That's who I am... /shrug lol
    We need a sarcasm font but until then, let's try to word our jokes a little more carefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    We need a sarcasm font but until then, let's try to word our jokes a little more carefully.
    Gotcha. Maybe I need to improve my understanding of English since it isn't my first language I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    And I wasn't being hostile, despite your joke being at the expense of part of the community. I was just saying you're calling attention to it in this thread yourself.

    Anyway, there's really no reason the system would be unfair to women, you simply flag both player's accounts for name change, and then its up to them to decide what they want to do. The man could take the woman's name, they could make a new family name, whatever they want.

    Hell, RPers and those who follow the lore in naming conventions would be adhering to matronymics in certain cases anyways, and the whole who accepts whom's surname becomes rather foggy. That's why a simple name change flag for both players would cover all the bases, you could just leave your name as is in fact.

    Regardless, as long as they're warned ahead of time whoever accepts the responsibility of changing their name will have to take that risk. The same thing is true in reality.
    Oh right... Is that what you only you want right? Let's see what replies you got...

    1) Off-topic replies
    2) Don't care replies
    3) Divorce quests replies
    4) Marriage shouldn't be included replies

    Yeah yeah, discussing here isn't going to get you anywhere. Why don't you try in the beta forums?

    To answer your "Will we be able to change our family names?" question. No, it will not... and now you are fighting for it? Whatever, in-game marriage isn't important.

    Have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    Stuff
    What are you even talking about? You're mad that no one understood what was either a tasteless pass at the LGBT community or deadpan sarcasm on an internet forum. Deadpan sarcasm doesn't work well with people that A. do not know you and B. do not have any audio/visual cues. And if it's the former, why are you surprised?

    Anyway, no one actually responded in a hostile manner to anything you said, we simply stated that your joke did not come across as such. I never said that everyone in this thread was super on topic.

    Also, you can't answer my question, so I'm not sure why you're attempting to drop a definitive answer based entirely on your own opinion (that a feature that has already been confirmed; read: marriage, is unimportant) on us. But you do you, friend.


    P.S. When did asking a question on a forum become "fighting" for something?
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    /last few odd posts

    ^^See this... this right here... is why I am totally against marriage in an MMO. Just complicates things and, at best, causes debates that are less than pleasant. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    You know, it's been ages since I last saw an Haruhi Gif

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