how to you get these spells and at what level? Just because they use similar names DON"T make them acient magic. Like quake in ff8 was from the brothers and needed float to avoid it. I think this is again ppl stuck in ffxi. In ffxi those were acient magics and getting them wasn't easy. They hand long cast times consumed a tone of mp and did a ton of dmg. More so with a magic burst.

unless ffxiv also classifies them as an AM, then yes you got a point. But so far it seems like you see name flare or quake then automatically think of ffxi. Recall in post ff games where holy was a massive spell? yet in ffxi it isn't.