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    The only thing that came to my mind when I saw the picture was:

    Oh my god, PLEASE don't tell me they have given her dark hair and let this dark-looking colour only be caused by unfortunate situational shading. If they've changed her looks a lot (and I think hair colour is a lot - it can make a person seem completely different) I'll probably run a desperate rampage... ;_____; *broken fangirl heart*




    What? Irony? Where?

    But really, I hope they didn't change her core design (face, expression, style), except maybe some outfit details. I really liked her set-up in 1.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    The only thing that came to my mind when I saw the picture was:

    Oh my god, PLEASE don't tell me they have given her dark hair and let this dark-looking colour only be caused by unfortunate situational shading. If they changed her looks a lot (and I think hair colour is a lot - it can make a person seem completely different) I'll probably run a desperate rampage... ;_____; *broken fangirl heart*




    What? Irony? Where?

    But really, I hope they didn't change her core design (face, expression, style), except maybe some outfit details. I really liked her set-up in 1.0.
    Shouldn't worry too much. It seems just higher contrast due to taking a picture of a screen with a camera to me.
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    I just really really hope so.
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    Japanese voice acting is normally higher quality than the original even on American games or cartoons.
    Sure sounds like an opinion, Abe!

    just sayin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    Sure sounds like an opinion, Abe!
    "opinion" is normally a copout. There are things in the world that are factually right and factually wrong, as much as relativists like to try and hide it. At least I brought plenty to support what I say.

    "just sayin" is, of course, another copout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    "opinion" is normally a copout. There are things in the world that are factually right and factually wrong, as much as relativists like to try and hide it. At least I brought plenty to support what I say.

    "just sayin" is, of course, another copout.
    Wow, you sure won this argument....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    Sure sounds like an opinion, Abe!

    just sayin'!
    Opinion in this regard only goes so far though. When something sounds bad it generally sounds bad, when something sounds good it'll sound good.

    It's the same as looking at "B Movies" and "Hollywood productions", I'm pretty sure most can agree that the acting in B movies is rarely top notch, this is exactly the same as VA/VO work between west/east. Japanese VA/VO work isn't "superior" but you'll rarely find VA/VO work in western games that's honestly above average and a lot has to do with voice direction, but it also has to do with the fact I've noticed few western VA/VO folks put a lot of emotion into what they do, especially if it's "silly" they won't take it seriously whereas I've seen mostly JP/KR VA take every type of role seriously. There's no right or wrong since as said it's mostly voice direction, but when you really sit down and look at it, it still falls down into the actor themselves.

    While it sounds weird, taking even silly stuff seriously is why people like Jim Carrey got famous as an actor. Not sure what the exact english phrase is for this, but when a VA know they're "just simply in a cartoon/game" you can really tell compared to when I watch certain animes and play certain JP released games, the VA play the part as if the characters are them. I've honestly seen so few localizations and western games/cartoons that were like that. Hell the 70s and 80s in Japanese anime weren't even that great either, very few were really well done untill the mid-late 90s.

    Someone used Cowboy Bebop as an example, that anime was designed more like a western cartoon than it was an anime.
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    The only point I was trying to make was that saying Japanese voicework > all is simply a matter of opinion, regardless of how much experience one may have on the subject.

    There's tons of hard working, talented, and incredibly good VA's working in America, and elsewhere. You're usually not hearing them in dubs of Japanese stuff (anime, vidya) because localizing anime is a risky business, and hiring the top talent is expensive. Abe should know. He's worked in it. For 6 years, I might add.

    I do agree that I prefer most Japanese dubs over English dubs. But it's not a matter of Japan being better at VA. It's a matter of localization usually doing a crappy, cheap job of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    Oh my god, PLEASE don't tell me they have given her dark hair and let this dark-looking colour only be caused by unfortunate situational shading. If they've changed her looks a lot (and I think hair colour is a lot - it can make a person seem completely different) I'll probably run a desperate rampage... ;_____; *broken fangirl heart*
    But they changed Thancred's hair colour in the latest trailer nyaha :3
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    Muffins > Cupcakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancakes View Post
    But they changed Thancred's hair colour in the latest trailer nyaha :3
    (facepalm) No, they didn't. lol
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