Roaming Primals?

[PEANUT]

Just curious if anyone knows and has any links/evidence as proof about if all the Primals will now be roaming or non-roaming.

Now I thought Odin was the only primal announced that will be a roaming primal, meaning a different area every spawn, and that all the others will be as they were?

Are all the Primals going to be roaming now(because Ifrit in the benchmark video did look like a roaming primal, but that could just be it's new battlefield)? Or am I right and Odin is the only one?

Also if they are all going to me roaming, how much will their battles change? I think Yoshi said they will only change a little, but will basically be the same? Thanks

[Enma]

Odin will be different from other Primals, but HOW different was not said. (Something about his strength, it grews each time he is defetead)
As far as I know, all Primals will be roaming and the fight instanced. (You can fight it only with your Party/Ally)

[Hulan]

They seem to have backed off of this a bit. Primals will be instanced, but in some way we don't know yet the instance itself will be somewhat roaming. Meanwhile, FATE versions of each primal are at least on the drawing board (though not quite to the planning board yet). Beyond that - not much can be said.

[Zenaku]

They seem to have backed off of this a bit. Primals will be instanced, but in some way we don't know yet the instance itself will be somewhat roaming. Meanwhile, FATE versions of each primal are at least on the drawing board (though not quite to the planning board yet). Beyond that - not much can be said.

There is no FATE primal that was just for marketing pretty much a PR thing.

Odin is a elder primal i think i remember that he lost his memory. Each time he dies he learn something which make him stronger each time he kill he drop better items.

Yoshi-p said that Odin going to get to the point that only players with the best gear can take him down. At the start he would be somewhat easy and not drop that many good items but as people kill him he remember more and more and he drop better loot and become stronger.

But ya sorry for the player who was thinking the primal are in the FATE that just for marketing. But you know they could change there mind but it seem dumb that they would pop in a FATE the roaming instance make more sense.

[Myranda]

From Reinhart's unofficial translation of the live letter:

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# Q27: How will the primal fights change in ARR?
# A27: They will be basically be the same as the fights in version 1.0. However, we will be making some minor tweaks based on the new battle system and the primals will have a larger role in the main scenario.
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f; How will the primal battles such as Ifrit, Moogle, and Garuda be in ARR?
y; umm, basics for those that played previous FFXIV, just imagine the primal battles from then
y; however, this time it involves with the main scenario so the standing position and cut scene is different
y; also the skills they use is matched to the ARR’s battle so it’s different
y; Say for Titan, Titan is new, like there are many things, like the ground breaking through, flying, dropping. There are lots using ground gimmicks.
y; And as the contents gets updated, less people will play, so at that time we’ll have Ifrit show up in public field, and like the benchmark it becomes a F.A.T.E. and from there people can use it as great summon (dai-shoukan)

Sounds to me like they're going to start as instanced fights (sounds like static location rather than roaming since they may be involved in the main story, but hard to say at this point), and then later be reimplemented as FATEs or something similar. They certainly have seemed to back away a bit from making them completely roaming, but perhaps not abandoning it entirely. I think we're just gonna have to wait and see for ourselves, unfortunately.

I don't remember hearing about Odin getting stronger, though I don't doubt that the info is authentic. It worried me a bit because there's going to be hard-core groups seeking him out and defeating him constantly, quickly raising the difficulty to a point where it would be hard for less die hard groups to ever take him out even once unless there's a certain maximum he'll cap at...

[Zenaku]

From Reinhart's unofficial translation of the live letter:


Sounds to me like they're going to start as instanced fights (sounds like static location rather than roaming since they may be involved in the main story, but hard to say at this point), and then later be reimplemented as FATEs or something similar. They certainly have seemed to back away a bit from making them completely roaming, but perhaps not abandoning it entirely. I think we're just gonna have to wait and see for ourselves, unfortunately.

I don't remember hearing about Odin getting stronger, though I don't doubt that the info is authentic. It worried me a bit because there's going to be hard-core groups seeking him out and defeating him constantly, quickly raising the difficulty to a point where it would be hard for less die hard groups to ever take him out even once unless there's a certain maximum he'll cap at...

he cap at a level but it would be to the point that only the top players can take him on. But that the point of this primal is to give top players something fun to fight and drop awesome loot.

[Pwnagraphic]

From Reinhart's unofficial translation of the live letter:


Sounds to me like they're going to start as instanced fights (sounds like static location rather than roaming since they may be involved in the main story, but hard to say at this point), and then later be reimplemented as FATEs or something similar. They certainly have seemed to back away a bit from making them completely roaming, but perhaps not abandoning it entirely. I think we're just gonna have to wait and see for ourselves, unfortunately.

I don't remember hearing about Odin getting stronger, though I don't doubt that the info is authentic. It worried me a bit because there's going to be hard-core groups seeking him out and defeating him constantly, quickly raising the difficulty to a point where it would be hard for less die hard groups to ever take him out even once unless there's a certain maximum he'll cap at...

This about sums it up nicely.

[Hulan]

There is no FATE primal that was just for marketing pretty much a PR thing.

He said at some point that they would like to implement Primals as FATEs in at some point in the future, which is what I was referring to.

[Zenaku]

As long as he caps I'm cool with it, it's a neat idea. A difficult fight is good, but if it got harder without bound, it just takes a single LS/FC to crank it up to the point where only they can challenge it (or maybe not even them anymore...)



Yeah I remember that idea about primals being a special 1-time group summon after defeating it open world from fairly early on in ARR's development. One just has to wonder how closely they're sticking to that.

Ya he caps but once they make the level cap like 55 or 60 i'm guessing his cap would also be fix and drop better item for that level. Which mean odin could be a primal that we could enjoy for years to come.

He said at some point that they would like to implement Primals as FATEs in at some point in the future, which is what I was referring to.

ya sorry did not read that part of the interview

[PEANUT]

Ok thanks for the replies, that's what I was confused on, I guess they will be roaming so you have to find them, but when you actually fight them you go into an instanced fight. Makes more sense now and ya forgot Odin getting stronger each time, ooooo so how strong is he gonna get o.o