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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azmar View Post
    I like how OP only has 1 like on his thread after almost 2000 views. Why would RMT want houses, they just want to sell their gold. On the bot topic you think these botters made millions off of crafting what over and over, like shards that sell for almost nothing?
    The people that have real rich money are honest people that crafted expensive gear and materia stuff and these people deserve their house, OP is just mad he cant afford a small house and wants equal rights as the people that play 12 hours a day.
    Example: the large houses will cost let's say 100M, the RMTs will buy them, and then they can decide to sell them for 150M. Btw i'm not mad =) <3 .. I'm happy with my 25ish milions made from d1 .
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    Example: the large houses will cost let's say 100M, the RMTs will buy them, and then they can decide to sell them for 150M. Btw i'm not mad =) <3 .. I'm happy with my 25ish milions made from d1 .
    There is an infinite number of houses. buying them all is impossible.

    Every time an instance worth of houses sells, a new one is made. (at least thats how I assume it works, otherwise nobody will be getting any houses at all...)

    Trying to buy / flip real estate isn't going to work.

    Thus making RMT a moot point because there is no benefit to buying a house from RMT over buying one from a fresh instance.

    That is, unless you want to be in the same instance as a friend. That's the only reason to buy a house off someone. And the chances of actually buying a house off a real RMT is seriously low.
    There is just no way they will even be able to buy houses in bulk.
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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 04-07-2013 at 08:23 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    Do you really guys want a system, where people that used bot or bought gils in 1.0, will have advantages over honest ppl? Of course I'm not saying that everyone in 1.0 was a botter or a gil buyer, but i know for sure that a LOT of them made TONS of gils by botting.

    Also we know that houses will costs a LOT of gils, and that you can sell & trade them... This is a red carpet invite for RMT, dear Yoshi, dear SE, think about it.


    Please make houses like an achievment/storyline completion reward. You completed the content? Here take your house, and not you bought gils or boted , here take your reward anyway.

    Something like:

    -You completed the lv 30 story line? Here take this small house.
    -You completed both 3 storyline and killed Bahamut in super hard mode? Wow, you're a hero! Please take this LARGE MANSION for you and your adventurer friends.

    Even in Wildstar the dev announced that you can get your own house by completing a lv 6 quest.
    Well then, we should just remove gil from the game so that honest people have a fair chance at everything- because bot-farmed gil (NOT GILS! THE PLURAL OF GIL IS GIL, JUST LIKE THE PLURAL OF YEN IS ... YEN!) is good for buying anything, not just houses.

    You can't solve the problem of RMT by making gil useless.
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  4. #44
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    i could see someone buy a house and flip it by furnishing it with stat bonuses
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    Azmar Azurewrath
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    Anyone else hoping their neighbors in their "house instances" are not rokien or azuryamber >.> I'm gonna shout for friendly people only and troll free housing areas...
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azmar View Post
    Anyone else hoping their neighbors in their "house instances" are not rokien or azuryamber >.> I'm gonna shout for friendly people only and troll free housing areas...
    I believe you can still mute them if the laws of probability turn against you in such a disastrous way
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Well.... I played from the beginning and the most Gil I ever made was 6 Million. SO I will start with 600k into ARR.
    I really hope Houses are not to expensive and I really wish I could get an another Server without broken Economy.... since I will have a hard time on old Servers with so many people having tons of Gil
    The richoor ratio hasn't changed at all since you stopped playing 1.0 If you could buy what you needed then, you still will be able to do so. People keep painting this picture of the old servers being filled with crazy-wealthy people. It's just not quite like that. Are their crazy wealthy people? Sure, but there is also an abundance of items in the markets that compensate greed-grabbing.

    Supply vs. Demand

    1.0 player servers: Are more saturated but they also have a high amount of suppliers/ and a modest amount of demand (people craft or have friends who can craft a lot of stuff for them). This keeps prices lower because you have competition in sales.

    New Player Servers: Low Supply/High Demand Very few people will be able to craft/gather/farm. Due to this, people will be selling all of this at inflated prices. Almost everything will be more expensive or impossible to find for sale all together.

    On the housing front:

    I'm almost positive that in order to unlock housing, you'll yes, need the gils to buy it, but you'll also need to be a certain level and/or done a quest or something. By making sure we need to be a certain level/clear a quest, it helps keep RMT's out of the housing market.
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    Do we need to be in a Free Company to buy a house? o.o
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  9. #49
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    i could see someone buy a house and flip it by furnishing it with stat bonuses
    i think people keep forgetting the fact that stats bonuses is perks for free company , So if you have a free company and they put a lot of item for bonuses everyone within the free company get it.

    I don't think they be any bonuses for personal homes and if there are it be rare,ex items which i bet you can't sell your house with the item in the home.
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    First, if there is a limited number of houses available, and RMT are successful in buying and reselling at a higher price... they are actually doing a good thing.

    It allows people who have the most gil to get the houses first instead of those first in line. I made my gil providing items for other people at a good price. I will probably have enough gil for 2 houses... I don't see why we have to introduce an entirely new currency just for houses. If we followed your logic we would have separate currencies for everything or we would just do away with all gil... that argument has already been made on these forums and I don't think we need to bring it back up.

    Secondly, if there is not a shortage of houses available... then how will RMT make a profit buying and selling when someone can just buy from someone else?
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