Square Enix’s New President Plans To Review The Entire Company - ARR incert future?

[Reynhart]

Yes, and "Because it's FF VII" is still not an argument.
If you want a remake to sell, the original must have sold well too. What's the point of remaking a game that failed the 1st time ?

As for the PC rerelease, do you really think new players wanted to play a 16-year old game on their full HD power PC ?

By the way...Dragon Quest VII was a far better selling Playstation game in Japan than FF VII, and DraQue is a far greater cult there too. But they don't deem it too risky to do a remake.

And if DraQue X and FF Type-0 prove one thing, it's that they're totally fine at aiming only the japan market for ensuring sales.

[Catapult]

Oh look, they're so busy expending resources on XIV, XIII-Versus and XV (come on, you know it's coming for PS4) that they don't have the current manpower resources to give a VII remake the attention its high-risk status demands.

For another twelve months at least, pirorities will make the argument moot.

[SkyeWindbinder]

Yes, and "Because it's FF VII" is still not an argument.
If you want a remake to sell, the original must have sold well too. What's the point of remaking a game that failed the 1st time ?

I don't know. Why don't you try asking Square Enix. After all, aren't they remaking FFXIV?

Yeah, thought so.

Look, my guess would be that a company would want to remake a failed game in order to make it more appealing, to draw customers in to a product that they made that they really want them to experience. And no, "because it's FFVII" is not an argument, I agree with that much. The thing is, that wasn't the argument I was making at all. Have you even been paying attention? lol The argument I was making was that you don't remake a product that has reached such a cult status with fans without undertaking a huge risk. And that is a risk that Squeenix cannot afford to take, not in their current state.

As for the PC rerelease, do you really think new players wanted to play a 16-year old game on their full HD power PC ?

By the way...Dragon Quest VII was a far better selling Playstation game in Japan than FF VII, and DraQue is a far greater cult there too. But they don't deem it too risky to do a remake.

Well, yes, people would want to play a re-release of a game like FFVII. It's selling just fine on PC and PSN. And people buy old copies of games all the time. So, yeah. As for DWVII selling more than FFVII, um...

Really?

Because, according to sources, in NA sales of DWVII reached about 200,000 copies, while on it's opening week FFVII reached 330,000 copies, and reached 500,000 copies in it's first three weeks. And while DWVII did sell over 3 million copies as of 2000 (years after the debut of FFVII), as of 2004 it had sold 4.1 million copies. FFVII, on the other hand, well, it sold 2.3 million copies in Japan on it's release week, which pales in comparison to the 3.78 million copies sold in Japan of DWVII, I'll give you that. But, as of 2010, it has sold a whopping 10 million units worldwide. And that's just of 2010. As of 2013, THIS YEAR, DWVII has sold, worldwide, 4.47 million units. FFVII is also remarked as the game that redefined the RPG category and expanded the audience of the RPG. Also praised as the game the sold the Playstation. And regardless of how popular DWVII may be in Japan, FFVII still holds higher cult status as a single entity itself apart form it's series, prompting prequels, a sequel movie (that was very awesome), appearances in other games, and even appearances in other forms of media. DWVII is not even close to reaching that status. So, once again, there goes your argument. Oh, and in 2006, the readers of Famitsu, a JAPANESE magazine, voted DWVII the 9th best video game of all time. Guess which one they voted number 2? Go on, guess. Just, just take a shot.

See, for all these reasons and MORE, remaking FFVII could very easily be a huge mistake. Remaking DWVII, not so much. Although Squeenix would still have to tread lightly with the formula, I'm sure they could get away with a lot more in that game than they could with FFVII.

And if DraQue X and FF Type-0 prove one thing, it's that they're totally fine at aiming only the japan market for ensuring sales.

Unfortunately, as I said before, not nearly as high in cult status as FFVII. So, more risks can be taken. Also, right now, Squeenix is still treading unsure waters. So they can't affort to take such a risk with FFVII. And they know this. That's why it's one of the games people have wanted a remake of for so long that Squeenix HASN'T made a remake of. And they likely won't. For all the reasons I've stated. You can preach and moan about it, you can bring up analogies, you can do whatever you please. But FFVII is a hot button that I doubt Squeenix will ever press. And they're wise not to.

[Reynhart]

Indeed, Dragon Quest VII was only 9th, so it would be a far lesser risk than remaking the 2nd best game...or, let's be crazy, the 1st, which is...Final Fantasy X.

They sure wouldn't make a Final Fantasy X HD Remaster on PS3 and PS Vita, right ?

Source : http://www.edge-online.com/features/...-time-top-100/

[Abriael]

You do know that a single poll isn't exactly representative of anything right? I find it absolutely hilarious when I see people that think business decisions should be taken over massively oversimplified parameters.

Lemme give you a small rundown on reality: You're an anonymous forum dweller with absolutely no experience in game development, business, or the game industry whatsoever (pretty much like the ridiculous dude in the video). No matter how much being a gamer makes you think you know. You don't.

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Who knows, you may become the next CEO.

Or much more probably, you're going to gift them a good laugh. Good laughs are always valuable.

[Reynhart]

Don't look at me, I'm not the one who brought this poll in the thread.

Oh, and in 2006, the readers of Famitsu, a JAPANESE magazine, voted DWVII the 9th best video game of all time. Guess which one they voted number 2? Go on, guess. Just, just take a shot.

I'm not saying I know precisely how game industry works...but at least I'm looking at actual facts and past SE strategy to explain my point.

SE is doing Final Fantasy remakes since the SNES. They won't be able to release the 6 first Final Fantasy indefinitely, so if they want to keep this strategy, one day they'll have to take that big Final Fantasy VII step.

[SkyeWindbinder]

Indeed, Dragon Quest VII was only 9th, so it would be a far lesser risk than remaking the 2nd best game...or, let's be crazy, the 1st, which is...Final Fantasy X.

They sure wouldn't make a Final Fantasy X HD Remaster on PS3 and PS Vita, right ?

Source : http://www.edge-online.com/features/...-time-top-100/

The point of the poll was to show that DQVII is not as popular or as much a cult classic as FFVII, considering it's position on the list. Also, You don't seem to have a response to your being completely and totally wrong about DWVII being a bigger seller than FFVII. And despite FFX's position on the list, it's still not as in demand by customer's for a high graphic remake. In fact, it wasn't in demand at all. Which is one of the reasons it's safe to do it. FFX, though winning the popularity poll (in 2006), is still not in the same high cult fan position as FFVII. Nor was it credited with selling the console it appeared on. Yet it still seems to have more props than DWVII.

Look, I know you deeply want to believe that a FFVII remake is a good idea. In fact, I was once in your position. I wanted to believe the exact same thing. I was even one of the people asking on forum after forum "WHY hasn't Squeenix done it by now? A FFVII remake would only make sense to do! It should be done! It has to be done!" But as time went by I began to understand the reality of what I was asking. That it could possibly damage the company that made it in an irreparable way, especially now when they're trying to come back from their slump. Also, why remake it? It's a cult classic, and it sells well as it is even to this very day. Why risk pissing off fans? Why give a cult favorite a make-over? Seeing as how it's less risky to simply NOT DO IT, and it SELLS FINE AS IT IS, it makes sense to not do it. I know, you're letting the fanboy in you do all your thinking. Like I said, I can empathize. But in time, I'm sure you'll come to the realization that it's... well... it's a stupid idea, through and through.

I'm not saying I know precisely how game industry works...but at least I'm looking at actual facts and past SE strategy to explain my point.

Like you did when you said DWVII sold more than FFVII? lol Yeah, okay. Dude, you're making this too easy for me.

SE is doing Final Fantasy remakes since the SNES. They won't be able to release the 6 first Final Fantasy indefinitely, so if they want to keep this strategy, one day they'll have to take that big Final Fantasy VII step.

People have been asking for a remake of this game since before they thought of doing remakes, lol. If they were going to take that step, they'd have done it by now. But they haven't. Because, and this may sting a little, but they know a lot more about what NOT to do as a game company than you do. As I said before, you're letting your inner fanboy do the thinking for you. It's not a good idea. It will never be a good idea.

[Reynhart]

Also, You don't seem to have a response to your being completely and totally wrong about DWVII being a bigger seller than FFVII.

I specifically said "better seller in Japan". What should be easy for you is reading what my post said.

Ok, so since no one want a FFX remake, it's good to do one ?...that's against the simple law of "offer and demand"

People wanted remakes of FFVII before SE thought about doing remakes ?! You mean remaking a 1997 game before FFIV was released on PSOne...in 1997, FF V...in 1998 and FF VI...in 1999 ?

[SkyeWindbinder]

I specifically said "better seller in Japan". What should be easy for you is reading what my post said.

Good for you. But being the "better seller in Japan", for however long DWVII was, doesn't really mean squat. My point is, worldwide, FFVII was the better seller, and still IS today. AND it has a much stronger fanbase. AND it has reached cult status among fans. These are things DWVII has not accomplished. Therefore, remaking it is not as big a risk factor as remaking FFVII.

Ok, so since no one want a FFX remake, it's good to do one ?...that's against the simple law of "offer and demand"

Offer oftentimes comes without demand. Especially in the game industry. A remake of FFX would probably go over well with people who play the game. But it has nowhere near received the demand of a remake of FFVII, if it even received demand at all. Like I said, offer sometimes comes without demand. At the same time, demand sometimes doesn't get an offer. Just because you want a company to do something doesn't mean it's in the best interest of the company to do it.

People wanted remakes of FFVII before SE thought about doing remakes ?! You mean remaking a 1997 game before FFIV was released on PSOne...in 1997, FF V...in 1998 and FF VI...in 1999 ?

Oh god... (facepalm)

Well, I am in fault here. After all, you can't read sarcasm on the internet, so yes, it did go over your head. Let me be more frank, then. Ahem:

Customers have wanted a remake of FFVII for YEARS. It has been on forum after forum, wish list after wish list. However, SquareEnix knows full well that it is an unnecessary risk to take since

1. The original in it's current form still sells well, and

2. Messing with the original could bring a backlash that Squeenix can't recover from.

That's why it likely won't happen. Ever. If it was going to, it would have been done by now. They've made remakes of other games, they won't remake FFVII. They are smart enough to not listen to you and countless other fans crying about this issue. The wishes of the fanboy/fangirl are not necessarily the best thing for the company. And this is a good example of that. You want to play FFVII? Here you go...

http://us.playstation.com/games/fina...i-psp-ps3.html

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-...R40&_nkw=FFVII

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?...qid=1365465925

You're welcome.

P.S.: If you're waiting to play this:



...it's not going to happen. That was just a tech demo. It's time to move on.

[Rannie]

Good for you. But being the "better seller in Japan", for however long DWVII was, doesn't really mean squat. My point is, worldwide, FFVII was the better seller, and still IS today. AND it has a much stronger fanbase. AND it has reached cult status among fans. These are things DWVII has not accomplished. Therefore, remaking it is not as big a risk factor as remaking FFVII.



Offer oftentimes comes without demand. Especially in the game industry. A remake of FFX would probably go over well with people who play the game. But it has nowhere near received the demand of a remake of FFVII, if it even received demand at all. Like I said, offer sometimes comes without demand. At the same time, demand sometimes doesn't get an offer. Just because you want a company to do something doesn't mean it's in the best interest of the company to do it.



Oh god... (facepalm)

Well, I am in fault here. After all, you can't read sarcasm on the internet, so yes, it did go over your head. Let me be more frank, then. Ahem:

Customers have wanted a remake of FFVII for YEARS. It has been on forum after forum, wish list after wish list. However, SquareEnix knows full well that it is an unnecessary risk to take since

1. The original in it's current form still sells well, and

2. Messing with the original could bring a backlash that Squeenix can't recover from.

That's why it likely won't happen. Ever. If it was going to, it would have been done by now. They've made remakes of other games, they won't remake FFVII. They are smart enough to not listen to you and countless other fans crying about this issue. The wishes of the fanboy/fangirl are not necessarily the best thing for the company. And this is a good example of that. You want to play FFVII? Here you go...

http://us.playstation.com/games/fina...i-psp-ps3.html

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-...R40&_nkw=FFVII

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?...qid=1365465925

You're welcome.

P.S.: If you're waiting to play this:



...it's not going to happen. That was just a tech demo. It's time to move on.

sorry I hate to point this out but you do realize that anything besides the playstation network sale of FFVII or the pc download for the game make square enix absolutely no money at all right? Ebay they get shit and amazon they get shit ie anything sold on amazon now and ebay are preowned games and make no profit for se

Especially since this is a post about the ins and outs on how it would be a big risk for se to MAKE money on a remake of of a game that a lot of people want... And you're telling him and others that if they want the game so bad to purchase it from someone preowned.... Anyone else see the irony in it?