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  1. #21
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    An MMO has ALOT of crap going on.

    A-Helluva-Lot

    The main issue the Playstation 3 in particular hits is 'Memory'

    MMO's have to do alot more than some of the games you may have played on your PS3 so far.
    Think about all the crap going on

    Options
    Menus
    3D Models
    Textures
    Sounds
    Particles/Effects
    Messages
    Number Crunching
    Animations
    ALL DAT GRAZZ

    All happening in ""realtime"".

    This chews up memory like crazy.

    The PS3 is very limited in memory now for gaming standards, this is one issue developers hit with most games of this calibur.



    Another is processing power, balancing performance and quality can be a difficult task.
    The original reason why FFXIV 1.0 simply did not run on a PS3

    For example;
    PS3 ~230 Gigaflops
    Gaming PC ~1.0-3.0 Teraflops


    And even those PC's had trouble with FFXIV 1.0 and evidently FFXIV:ARR (Although considerably less so than 1.0)


    TL;DR

    For what they are achiveing so far on the PS3, just be thankfull they even got it to work.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 04-02-2013 at 07:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    Little bit nervous about this.

    a friend told me that SE has admitted that there WILL be PS3 limitations on FFXIV development

    I'm not surprised because PS3 is ancient, 8 year old hardware

    what do you guys think the PS3 limitations are?? storage space, area sizes?

    somewhat related: why are they releasing FFXIV on PS3 when the console is already out of date? isn't the plan to make FFXIV last a long time? how's that going to work on an out of date console?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I just finished watching the "Tour of Eorzea" video. They should really consider scrapping the PS3 version.

    There was so much screen tearing and the frame rate was plain horrible. "We're bringing in the guys from Sony" doesn't give me much hope.

    If they try to actually sell that for money, it will just piss even more fans off.

    Who else agrees they should give up on the PS3 version? Release ARR for PC and perhaps consider a future PS4 release.
    Duplicate topic.
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    Not quite. That topic was whether the PS3 version is up to par.

    This topic is about whether the PS3 version will hold back the PC version.

    The answer? YES. PS3 limitations are already happening and confirmed by the developer.

    If you need proof, just look at the new, downgraded FFXIV textures. Some of the new ARR graphics look straight out of FFXI 2003.

    Why? To accommodate the PS3. The game's aesthetics have been mauled to death in all areas. Just look at any of the official videos.

    I just hope we don't suffer in interface updates, fixes, inventory and storage space, etc... just to keep us on even ground with the PS3.
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    Claus, just stop it already, no one cares. Idk why you post on here, if you don't like that the game is limited by the ps3 (which it isn't) or the job system, don't play, don't post on the forums. plain and simple.
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    I'll voice my concerns in hopes that the game can grow and improve. You can sit idly by and do nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    This topic is about whether the PS3 version will hold back the PC version.

    If you need proof, just look at the new, downgraded FFXIV textures. Some of the new ARR graphics look straight out of FFXI 2003.

    Why? To accommodate the PS3. The game's aesthetics have been mauled to death in all areas. Just look at any of the official videos.

    I'm sorry but your statements here are false. PS3 might have limitations but in your examples they are it's own and separate limitations. Your perceived downgraded aesthetics are not due to the PS3 but due to SE wanting more lower end PC users to be able to play the game.

    Also Yoshi P himself has said that they will be able to keep the graphics on PC higher than on the console as an example he has said that they will be adding DirectX 11 support on PC sometime after launch it's just not something they're working on currently because they just don't have the time.

    Finally regardless of how you feel about it Yoshi P has said they want to keep to their promises to release this on PS3. PS3 users have been waiting even longer than the rest of us. I personally find this admirable.
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    Yoshi stated in a live letter that they intended on keeping the original promise of a ps3 version. It was promised and never done and despite draw backs, limitation ect... the development team is determined to keep that promise even though it may suck . All i did was pay attention to some live letters and posts do I get a cookie now?
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    I'm gonna guess Claus is a troll account, and if so, just ignore his topics and eventually he will get bored with it and maybe even get a life that isn't on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I'll voice my concerns in hopes that the game can grow and improve. You can sit idly by and do nothing.
    dude your concerns are wrong. ffxiv is pc first then ps3. theres no way in hell that the ps3 version will hold back anything in the pc version this is not ffxi. Yoshi p Is just keeping his word that a ps3 version will happen. in that video you saw the ps3 version wasn't even completed. he could of showed a bull shot video of the ps3 version but he kept it real and show you the progress of the ps3 version at that time. trust me the ps3 version will be better that that but it wont be up to par with the pc version.

    a ps4 version is very possible but he's not focus on that right now. he's saving ffxiv and giving the players a console version as promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    Little bit nervous about this.

    a friend told me that SE has admitted that there WILL be PS3 limitations on FFXIV development

    I'm not surprised because PS3 is ancient, 8 year old hardware

    what do you guys think the PS3 limitations are?? storage space, area sizes?

    somewhat related: why are they releasing FFXIV on PS3 when the console is already out of date? isn't the plan to make FFXIV last a long time? how's that going to work on an out of date console?

    Discuss
    you know a troll when they end their post with "Discuss" . This is always stupid because discussion will occur naturally if people are interested- you don't need to tell them to do it.

    Taking the bait aside, they are specially designing the PS3 client to avoid the limitations that caused problems for XI on the PS2. The gamepad UI streamlines some information to reduce memory usage, for instance (Instead of the visual display of your inventory, it just shows a number for each bag). I think SE is going into this knowing what happened with XI and avoiding it being an issue.
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