Are they getting rid of the job system?

[ClausL]

I don't think the subclassing and taking skills from the other jobs needs to be done away with, just the class to job progression. There would still be freedom and options if they rehaul it properly. I stand by my opinion that the way its done currently is needlessly convoluted.

I mean even if you like it, surely you can agree that it AT LEAST needs some work?

[Nox]

I don't think the subclassing and taking skills from the other jobs needs to be done away with, just the class to job progression. There would still be freedom and options if they rehaul it properly. I stand by my opinion that the way its done currently is needlessly convoluted.

I mean even if you like it, surely you can agree that it AT LEAST needs some work?

Elaborate on how the system is comvoluted. I think It's very straight forward. You equip a job stone and become a specialized role with a few new abilities. You don't equip a job stone and you stay as a class with much more freedom of costomization and play style.

[ClausL]

well, you already heard my opinion that they should get rid of armory classes entirely. It's hard for me to really make suggestions in favor of keeping the classes and just tweaking them, because I think that's the wrong path to follow.

[Rex]

Still think you're trolling, OP.

[SkyeWindbinder]

I think it's good they have it this way, because this way you can use the same classes mixed with others to make new jobs. I think it adds a sense of accomplishment to leveling up a job, because it takes work. It adds customization to characters.

[Rex]

Anyone know if they're getting rid of the job system for ARR?

the class/job system is totally pointless and confusing.

they should just combine classes and jobs into one thing.

who agrees that this is a horrible system which should be scrapped?

it's a real turn off to new players, because it makes no sense.

LOL it definitely does make sense. It's not that bad at all.

It's explained to you when you start the game...Isn't that enough? It's practically spoon fed! Did you play XI? Probably not...I'm sure you'd be even more confused about subjobs....

You must be Trolling. You must be.

[ClausL]

XI had a pretty great job system, if you ask me. It was way better than this garbage.

[Reynhart]

As soon as you used insults, you lost any chance of proving your point. Although it's also true for those who bruttaly attacked you.

Here's an argument against you, though...new players don't have access to jobs, and by the time they hit their first level 30 class, they probably understand how the game works, so the jobs won't confuse them.
So, your major point is...pointless

[ClausL]

It's not entirely the matter of whether it will confuse people.

why is it necessary to begin with? It isn't. it's just a useless crappy system that shouldn't even exist anymore IMO.

It's funny how Yoshi-P is so willing to scrap tons of 1.0 elements that weren't really that bad yet they're holding onto the armory system which most people never liked.

[Obsy]

which most people never liked.

[citation needed]