dev1037 New Battle Effects

[Abriael]

Hell yeh!!!

Abriael you have almost no idea what you're talking about lol All i'll say is other games (mmo) can do it.

"other MMO" have a TON less detail and effects in every other area of the game. Characters, environments, equipment and so forth.

Most MMORPG out there don't even include normal mapping, mind you.

[Zkieve]

yep, and it's always disappointing to see that many gamers seem to be absolutely convinced that they know better about game development than developers that have been successful in the industry for decades.

Because their target audience are game developers , not gamers.
facts.The latest notes are disappointing.The latests patches have been disappointing.i dont need a poll to know this or a degree in game development. Stop making a big deal of simple things .i rather wait for polished stuf than get unfinished mechanics.but lets praise when is due, and lets call off when is due to.We dont need animation size increase, we dont need monster size increase.We need a lot more than that to make this game better.Bigger=/= better.I bet if they made them smaller you would praise them for making them more detailed.

[viion]

"other MMO" have a TON less detail and effects in every other area of the game. Characters, environments, equipment and so forth.

Most MMORPG out there don't even include normal mapping, mind you.

You're thinking of the wrong ones, I'm talking about next gen ones.

Also: Exciting Graphics > Normal Mapping.

[Abriael]

Because their target audience are game developers , not gamers.

This doesn't change that a percentage of gamers tend to talk a lot with no knowledge on what they're talking about, which is a rather detrimental thing, especially when continuously bashing the work of other people.

facts.The latest notes are disappointing.The latests patches have been disappointing.i dont need a poll to know this or a degree in game development.

You seem to have a penchant for mistaking your personal opinion as "facts".

Stop making a big deal of simple things .i rather wait for polished stuf than get unfinished mechanics.but lets praise when is due, and lets call off when is due to.We dont need animation size increase, we dont need monster size increase.We need a lot more than that to make this game better.Bigger=/= better.I bet if they made them smaller you would praise them for making them more detailed.

"when is due" is quite subjective.
making monsters smaller wouldn't change the detail one bit. It would actually make detail LESS visible. On the other hand making them bigger increases the visibility of detail. Sorry, but your attempt to read my mind falls a little short.
If you think every single element of the development team can be dedicated 24/7 to work on "BIIIG" changes, well, let me tell you. It's not going to happen. In any development team, in any game (and in any industry actually).

You're thinking of the wrong ones, I'm talking about next gen ones.

Actually none of the "next generation" ones has a general level of detail even comparable to FFXIV. None announced yet, at least.

Also: Exciting Graphics > Normal Mapping.

Matter of taste. I'd rather have my equipment look made of a realistic material, instead of flat and boring low resolution textures, than having over the top magic effects.

[Zkieve]

Your making an argument were there is no argument.Im done talking to you and your game developer logic.

This size increase is disappointing. If you cant see that you are blind.
Dont bother posting to me you are on my ignore list

[Abriael]

Your making an argument were there is no argument.Im done talking to you and your game developer logic.

This size increase is disappointing. If you cant see that you are blind.
Dont bother posting to me you are on my ignore list

"i'm right and if you disagree with me you're wrong, and I'm going to ignore you because i can't counter your arguments".

Ahem...

As everyone may have easily noticed, there are numerous people that are pleased by the increase of the size of effects (while I doubt anyone consider it a final solution to all the problems of the game). Are they all "blind"? For some reason I don't think so.

[C56]

You people don't seem to understand how hard it is to resize things. It can take years to do it half-assed but they did it pretty well in only a few months. Honestly I have like 5 game designing degrees here sitting on my desk and I know it can take 3 to 4 years to even make a new character model.

Honestly, they are updating at a super fast pace, my mind is blown at how fast they can whip out these changes. If you guys have a problem then you should just leave, we don't need anyone who thinks badly about this game here and we don't need players like you in this amazing game.

[viion]

Actually none of the "next generation" ones has a general level of detail even comparable to FFXIV. None announced yet, at least.

TERA, next gen, has your beloved normal mapping, and has flashy effects. Has it all.

[Merovingian]

Ok so the players are complaining about boring effects and their answer is just to make the effects bigger. lol. Fail.

[Abriael]

TERA, next gen, has your beloved normal mapping, and has flashy effects. Has it all.

"it all"? Tera is nowhere "next gen", it's engine is pretty much "last gen" actually. The Unreal Engine 3 is from 2006. You may be mistaking it for the Unreal Engine 4 that will be released in 2012.

It has (very limited) normal mapping, but textures are quite a lot lower resolution than the ones in FFXIV (a quarter of the resolution for characters and equipment, to be precise), and 3d models are much less complex (the polycount isn't even on the same planet), resulting in a LOT lower level of detail. Also the draw distance doesn't even get near.
That falls a lot short of "having it all".