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    Mumble mumble...

    Who killed Niellefresne?
    What had seen in the tomb?
    Who was the spy?

    I was re-watching all starting cutscenes of Ul'dah...

    First, Nielle & Co seems they have organized the goobbue's escape, Corguevais pointed out that Nielle used the same horn he will use against Nielle, Lhammin, Ascilia and us.
    Probably is true. If You rewatch the first cut scene (the parade) you see a mammet use an horn, and after goobbue break the barrier.
    Like Thancred said after the gambling with Nielle, seems that escape was a masterminded plan from Syndicate for fear people and save them. (with the accident of Warburton)

    But, I really think Corguevais could be a spy of Empire, even Nielle told that he speak and wear like a Garlean (and we can see it all... the leggings, the colours... really similar to a Garlean), but i don't think was Corguevais to kill Nielle...

    If we watch the Echo cutscene where we see the kill we can notice that the killer have a black cowl and... black leggings! (but metallic) instead Corguevais had it normal leggings (black and red), and if we compare the height with Nielle, seems the killer was an hyur and not an elf (even the head haven't the pointed ear of an elf)...

    So maybe Corguevais is innocent? and someone other is the really spy?

    What I think is that Courgevais is an Empire Spy but not the only.. maybe he had a companion.. and he stolen the body of warburton to prevent thaumaturge and Nielle to discover the secret...

    Buuuut.. what is the secret?
    Ascilia and Corguevais told us that is worse of the Empire... but surely is related with Echo and Starshower... cuz when we had used echo for nielle death (touching the broken crystal) seems even thancred saw it... and after he understood we used the power he run out seeing the second starshower... after he told that THIS is the danger.. but still we don't know exactly what is it.. probably related with Primal and Ascian and the Mother Crystal.. but more clue will be available with 2.0

    For the Cave-in I really don't know if Corguevais have done something... but when the miners taken him to the guild Seserukka told that onlu Father can deal with trespassers... Who is the Father? :O


    (sorry if I was confusing but i'm not really good with english :x )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momita View Post
    What I think is that Courgevais is an Empire Spy but not the only.. maybe he had a companion.. and he stolen the body of warburton to prevent thaumaturge and Nielle to discover the secret...

    Buuuut.. what is the secret?
    Ascilia and Corguevais told us that is worse of the Empire... but surely is related with Echo and Starshower... cuz when we had used echo for nielle death (touching the broken crystal) seems even thancred saw it... and after he understood we used the power he run out seeing the second starshower... after he told that THIS is the danger.. but still we don't know exactly what is it.. probably related with Primal and Ascian and the Mother Crystal.. but more clue will be available with 2.0
    If Courguevais was a Garlean spy he was a terrible one. If I were going to be an American spy, the last thing I would do would be don a cowboy hat and spurs and an shirt with an American flag on it to do my business.

    Those words you heard about the Garleans making the beast break lost, Corguevais walking and talking like a Garlean and then brainwashing Ascilia, those are the beginnings of a cover up. There IS a Garlean spy, but their attempts to find him ended up with Niellefresne, the one who knew the most, getting offed and his family losing all position.

    You're right, this DOES have something to do with the Crystal Tower Ascians and primals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    If Courguevais was a Garlean spy he was a terrible one. If I were going to be an American spy, the last thing I would do would be don a cowboy hat and spurs and an shirt with an American flag on it to do my business.

    Those words you heard about the Garleans making the beast break lost, Corguevais walking and talking like a Garlean and then brainwashing Ascilia, those are the beginnings of a cover up. There IS a Garlean spy, but their attempts to find him ended up with Niellefresne, the one who knew the most, getting offed and his family losing all position.

    You're right, this DOES have something to do with the Crystal Tower Ascians and primals.
    Yeah you're right but it's a game and of course we don't knew how a Garlean was until last quest ^^

    BTW best spy is who say "I'm a spy!"! XD

    re-btw, I don't think Corguevais brainwashed Ascilia, she is a child, orphaned.. her feelings are really simple: before she hate Corguevais cuz he couldn't prevent the accident, after she get hate versus Nielle & Co cuz she discover they have organized everything.. and at the end when Corguevais uses the Horn to call the coblyns he leave Ascilia there.... If he really wanna return Ascilia to Ala Mhigo... Of course doesn't leave her there :v

    So, for me, I see either Corguevais and Nielle like "villain" (surely big word) cuz Nielle is just a Piece of the Syndicate, and he want only the Uldah welfare.. (and in a normal society this is... bad ) and Corguevais is just a semi-really-bad/good spy

    The only one Who I trust is Thancred *-*












    Spoiler: At the end we discover the real villain is.......... Thancred! :OOO MIND BLOWN! (hmmm... casualty? He's a Hyur! Maybe He killed Nielle :OO and He know everytime, everything! He is an unknown for uldahns, like a new spy! ...... *mumble* *mumble*)
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