Thread: 1.0 Ul'dahn story arc

On the surface, people are supposed to see Courgevais as the classic "villain" against Nielle & Co....but it's much more complex than that, especially when you take into consideration Nielle's party is technically the one responsible for Warburton's death and the displacement of Ascilia..so in fact, they should be the ones considered the "villains".

I wouldn't call them Villains...

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Niellefresne: I agree with you there. Perspective can be all the difference. I fear our Ul'dah is in most dire need of a reformation. (Niellefresne likely knows of Lord Lolorito's involvement with the Garleans and their lust for war. However, no one else knows about this. Niellefresne wants to do something about it. His friends join him in hopes that they might soak up some glory in the process. Except F'lhaminn. She just <3 Nielle)

Momodi: He and his friends seem to think they have evidence that Garlean spies have infiltrated the city. (What is this evidence? And when did they acquire it?)

Momodi: I speak of Niellefresne─aye, he is son to the Eshtaime guildmaster. Seems the shop's proprietor, Lord Lolorito, has taken quite a liking to him, as well. His future is bright as can be with those connections. (Those connections aren't beneficial. Lord Lolorito is likely keeping an eye on him. To make sure this issue with the Garlean connections in Ul'dah doesn't make it out to the public.)

Thancred: There are merchants here who would well have this war, with an eye only for the profits it may yield them. (Yep, we know that now. Lolorito openly admits playing both sides and even lesser merchants can think of ways to exploit the war.)

F'lhaminn: We know from what Niel and the others have learned that the man and his daughter came from Ala Mhigo.

F'lhaminn: They believe that he may have been carrying sensitive information concerning the Empire. (F'lhaminn just spilled the beans to the wrong people. Mumuepo is IN on the Warmongering.)

Mumuepo: Sensitive? You mean news of a Garlean attack? And you think the Empire may have killed him lest their plans be revealed? (Mumuepo, ever the perpetual liar.)

Momodi: This talk of an Imperial unleashin' the beast at the parade is just that--talk. (Momodi speaks truth. The Goobbue incident was an accident that messed up their plans to blow the lid off the warmongering. So if anyone played a nefarious hand in the Goobbue incident at all, it probably ain't the Garleans.)

Niellefresne: Hear me well─I had no hand in this man's death. None! (Nielle has been trying desperately to protect himself this whole time, but this plot is like quicksand.)

Niellefresne: I must know of this danger you speak of. Is it the Empire? You, this girl, her father, you all hail from Ala Mhigo─that much is clear. If you know anything, I advise you to speak, and quickly. (Nielle cares about Ul'dah. He already said that he wants a reform of it, not destroy it, he's concerned about the Garleans in Ul'dah. He may have been moved by Thancred's speech about putting people in danger which wouldn't allow him to just let things be and let the Syndicate bring war regardless of the profits. He does care a little about Ascilia and they pick up on that. But he appeals to their shared heritage from Ala Mhigo.

"You saw what happened in Ala Mhigo! Don't let this happen to Ul'dah!")


Qoqoba: The girl has just lost her father. She is vulnerable. Perhaps Corguevais filled her head with lies. (Trying to dismiss the girl's words and pin the blame on Corguevais)

Niellefresne: I think not. You saw the power he wields. He has no need for such idle treacheries.

Greinfarr: The weapon he wielded─it was of Garlean make.

Greinfarr: And his speech, I have heard its like before. Crypted talk employed by imperial soldiers. (Hey it looks like a duck, talks like a duck...)

Greinfarr: We suspected a spy was in our midst─might be we found him.

Niellefresne: It cannot be...

F'lhaminn: We should speak with the bard─with Thancred.

F'lhaminn: He has been looking into the Empire's doings. He may know something.

(omg Shut up, F'lhaminn)

Qoqoba: But hasn't he been...

Greinfarr: Aye, exiled. Right, Niellefresne? (Come on, Nielle... let it go.)

F'lhaminn: Exiled? But why?

Niellefresne: It matters not. I shall discover what this danger is myself.

Greinfarr: Wait, Neillefresne! ($#%@$@^!!!!!)

It's clear that the friends of Niellefresne plan to pin all this on Courguevais. If they have evidence that Garlean spies have infiltrated Ul'dah, then why so late in the game are they coming up with obvious excuses to make Courguevais the enemy? They're standing around plotting on how they're going to explain this to the Syndicate or others. They've gone chicken, abandoning Ul'dah in hopes that they can salvage what glory they have left. So Nielle has to go and do this himself. They want no part of it but are still concerned about Nielle. So instead of going off to help or stop Nielle and possible put themselves at the scene, they send Thancred, an exile.

Greinfarr: Niellefresne has turned to...our last resort.

So much for friendship eh, Greinfarr? Geez, what a bunch of sniveling cowards.

Niellefresne: There is a good deal I would know from this dead man. And not soon enough.

Well, he'll never know. The Syndicate won't have it. His connections with Lolorito may have doomed him. I can just imagine the guy shaking his head. "Niel, what in the world? Why did you have to turn against our plans? You were so talented. We gave you more chances than anyone else" (YOU talk once about resurrecting the dead and you get to be a novice assassin's practice were it not for Momodi saving your butt)

"Ah, well, at least I still have your brother to make me stuff to sell to the Ul'dah elite as well as... *cough* the royal families of other countries. Mumuepo has this body he wants to examine and I'll just take this dagger for myself... just to make sure."

His friends got out, had they been there, they would have gotten killed too. They wanted out of the kiddie pool and into the adult swim. They had no desire to swim with sharks. The only person who seems to care is F'lhaminn.