Thread: 1.0 Ul'dahn story arc

Originally Posted by Catapult

Unless, of course, they were like the aftershocks of an earthquake. One major rupture in the crust triggers off a bunch of other smaller ruptures that occur over the following few weeks to months.

I'd find this likely if the star-shower seemed like more of a natural event. The way it ties directly into a planet-consciousness and the way it appears and moves says purposeful to me, for some reason.

Originally Posted by Catapult

A very good reason to assume this is the reactions of our archons. If they are sufficiently seperated in time, you would expect only one of them to be shocked by the presence and use of the echo, who could then have informed their colleagues accordingly. But rather, they are all rather lost for words.

And yet Thancred seems to know to run outside and look for the star-shower... /facedesks sadly

Originally Posted by Catapult

Maybe we're not supposed to tie the three stories together too tightly.

I would be...

...disappointed.

Just wanted to thank NoloeTazier for the summary of the Ul'dahn storyline. Things make quite i bit more sense now.

Really looking forward to the storylines in ARR!

Originally Posted by Catapult

This was what I first thought as well, but then I noticed the lack of a huge dragon underneath it, so they can't be the same starshower. However I do agree that the fall of the keeper had implications for the echo, as it did for aether throughout Eorzea.

tbh you don't need to see Midgarsormr for it to be the same explosion. Literally it's the aftermath and not the explosion itself. And as I've stated in other threads before, the 2nd time we see a star shower is what would happen at the Seventh Umbral. With Tanaka it probably would have been part of the Meteor Project...Yoshi was literally able to take the reigns and turn it into a Meteor Project² with Bahamut. So when people go "well it doesn't look like Dalamud's destruction at end of 1.0," they have to realize the cutscene was Tanaka's. Yoshi was able to go all out with this current story that was developing.

Originally Posted by Sabi

Just wanted to thank NoloeTazier for the summary of the Ul'dahn storyline. Things make quite i bit more sense now.

Really looking forward to the storylines in ARR!

Not a problem, I'm around more now so I can answer any questions about the Ul'dah storyline. I literally was typing up the synopsis/speculations while watching the CS' and talking to NPCs. So I'm sure there's some things in there that I would dispute now that I'm "more" knowledgeable on the issues. I still have a thousand questions myself.

Same as you mentioned, really curious about Warburton and also the Assassin.. oh and also what did Nielesfresne see in the sarcophagus, hopefully we will get the answers in ARR.

Did Warburton have a shadow btw?

Originally Posted by Sabi

Same as you mentioned, really curious about Warburton and also the Assassin.. oh and also what did Nielesfresne see in the sarcophagus, hopefully we will get the answers in ARR.

Did Warburton have a shadow btw?

Yeah he did, every character from Ul'dah had a shadow. When Ferne announced the shadow thing I went right back to checking the cutscenes. I thought for sure that Corguevais wouldn't have a shadow because of the similarity of being an Elezen and stealing a Horn that can control monster like the Limsa story line...but Travanchet has a big big difference, he had his own music.

Least there's only 2 answers for the sarcophagus question...he was either in there or he wasn't. Of course that's then broken down because clearly he wasn't...I mean why would Nielle gasp, it had to either be empty or someone else, perhaps Corguevais, was in there. Corguevais and not Warburton would be the biggest surprise. But why and how would Warburton have faked his death while Ascilia and Corguevais looked on. As far as I know there's no flower in the ffxiv universe (like we have irl) that can induce a trance like dead state. But there is 1 thing that we do know of that can induce a frozen death-like state...the Heartstrike Dagger.

But how he could have been affected by the dagger and why Lord Lolorito would have allowed this is beyond me. So much speculation on my part, but that's all I have at the moment ((.

Ultimately what we're suppose to believe is that Warburton died when he pushed Ascilia away from the rampaging Goobbue. But there's no view of him getting hit by the Goobbue or the debris. He was suppose to have vital information for Ul'dah's safety..yet he stops to watch the parade with Ascilia. During the opening instances you can talk to Ascilia and Warburton...one of Warburton's lines is something like "Hello friend, do you know where I can get transportation to hamlet nearby I'm to meet a friend." Which is odd because you'd think the information is for Ul'dah and not Little Ala Mhigo/Silver/Gold Bazaar..not too sure if Little Ala Mhigo was yet established.

Now if the assassin had not hit Niellefresne at the time, I wonder what kind of truths we would know now. As we know from the Goldsmith class quests Lord Lolorito had Nielle assassinated because he stole the Heartstrike dagger from him. And Nielle's friend Greinfarr is looking for a way to "end" the frozen death state...I'm really really really really curious to see if Nielle is still suspended in ARR.

Anyways, simple answer: No one is an Ascian in the Ul'dah Storyline.
Speculation: Corguevais is in the sarcophagus.

Edit: Forgot to say, I still feel like the Lalafell Twins "took care of" Corguevais. After all they tell Rururaji (the Chocobo Lalafell) that they took care of him and sort of wiped their hands together. Whatever that is...but then somehow the body would have to get in the sarcophagus for my speculation to be right. So somehow it is. Also Siren!