Lalafell naming conventions typo?

[Alaltus]

I just want to bring Fernhalwes' attention to a possible colour typo in the Lalafell naming conventions.

Tokiki Toki
Should it not be Tokiki Toki?

edit: haha i'm surprised i missed this one in the first line.

Both Plainsfolk and Dunsefolk Lalafell names are ruled by rhythm

Just as well i'm not Dunesfolk or i might be offended.

[Jinketsu]

While on the topic of Lalafell naming conventions and asking questions about them, I'm wondering some things myself. In Blaise's thread we got into discussion about what would be considered passable for names given the lack of good examples showing just how diverse things can be.

In the examples given, there are names like Alka Zolka. According to the naming conventions thread, the L in Zolka is a single consonant syllable, breaking down the surname as Zo-L-Ka. Is that right, or is Zol its own syllable? Either way, how would we pronounce the L in Alka Zolka? Like we would in English, or is there more of an emphasis on it like "Uhl" or something?

Then we have names like Nokksu Shanksu from Lalafell NPC lists from version 1.x. Is the Sha in Shanksu supposed to be one phonetic sound for a three-letter syllable, or is the S separate from the Ha? And if the latter, do we separate the sound (like Seh-Ha)? The same question applies to the Ksu portion of the name.

I feel I might be reading too far into this, but I would absolutely love some more specifications on consonants and their phonetics!

[BlaiseLallaise]

While on the topic of Lalafell naming conventions and asking questions about them, I'm wondering some things myself. In Blaise's thread we got into discussion about what would be considered passable for names given the lack of good examples showing just how diverse things can be.

In the examples given, there are names like Alka Zolka. According to the naming conventions thread, the L in Zolka is a single consonant syllable, breaking down the surname as Zo-L-Ka. Is that right, or is Zol its own syllable? Either way, how would we pronounce the L in Alka Zolka? Like we would in English, or is there more of an emphasis on it like "Uhl" or something?

Then we have names like Nokksu Shanksu from Lalafell NPC lists from version 1.x. Is the Sha in Shanksu supposed to be one phonetic sound for a three-letter syllable, or is the S separate from the Ha? And if the latter, do we separate the sound (like Seh-Ha)? The same question applies to the Ksu portion of the name.

I feel I might be reading too far into this, but I would absolutely love some more specifications on consonants and their phonetics!

I imagine the question made their heads spin, resulting in a delayed response while they recover from said spinning.

[Inaaca]

Yeah, those appear to be typos, Alaltus.

I also would like to see how Ferne responds to Blaise's thread.

[Jinketsu]

I imagine the question made their heads spin, resulting in a delayed response while they recover from said spinning.

Nah, if their heads are spinning it's because of Catapult and Anonymoose. Haha.

[JGwinters]

In the examples given, there are names like Alka Zolka. According to the naming conventions thread, the L in Zolka is a single consonant syllable, breaking down the surname as Zo-L-Ka. Is that right, or is Zol its own syllable? Either way, how would we pronounce the L in Alka Zolka? Like we would in English, or is there more of an emphasis on it like "Uhl" or something?

My guess for Zolka is a long L sound for that syllable. I know quite a few English speakers especially neglect to think of long and short sounds as different things, but in quite a few languages that's the only thing that distinguishes two otherwise similar words with quite different meanings. Could be that the Lalafellian language ended up as one of these.
Also thinking back to the Japanese-language origins of the game, it could have its own effect on this. Alka Zolka is typed out 'aruka zoruka' in Japanese letters (if there's nothing funny going on with the name, I didn't check if there's an official version), and with there being no separate L and R in Japanese, and U in this case being largely silent..there's another suggestion on how to pronounce it. Not 'Uhl', as it were, but a short 'Lhu' maybe?

As for Nokksu Shanksu, while I'm relatively certain that it should be 'sha', the rest of the name leaves me stumped.

I'd also be interested in hearing more on actual pronunciation in the case of Lalafells and their names/language. I can easily see where the influence of Japanese might be twisting things a little bit (at least in my mind if nothing else. Just can't shake the data that's already there), but how are the official English rules?

[azethoth]

My guess for Zolka is a long L sound for that syllable. I know quite a few English speakers especially neglect to think of long and short sounds as different things, but in quite a few languages that's the only thing that distinguishes two otherwise similar words with quite different meanings. Could be that the Lalafellian language ended up as one of these.
Also thinking back to the Japanese-language origins of the game, it could have its own effect on this. Alka Zolka is typed out 'aruka zoruka' in Japanese letters (if there's nothing funny going on with the name, I didn't check if there's an official version), and with there being no separate L and R in Japanese, and U in this case being largely silent..there's another suggestion on how to pronounce it. Not 'Uhl', as it were, but a short 'Lhu' maybe?

As for Nokksu Shanksu, while I'm relatively certain that it should be 'sha', the rest of the name leaves me stumped.

I'd also be interested in hearing more on actual pronunciation in the case of Lalafells and their names/language. I can easily see where the influence of Japanese might be twisting things a little bit (at least in my mind if nothing else. Just can't shake the data that's already there), but how are the official English rules?

While this thread is quite old, I thought to answer the Nokksu Shanksu question. ノックス　シャンクス is most likely how it would be written. Nokkusu Shankusu. The double consonant is followed by a silent u kksu and the same for the other ksu. Given that the the vowels for naming so closely follow Japanese, the omission of the u is consistent with pronunciation. Which is why Desu is often just Des(u)(very soft u). On that topic the I was thinking I would like to follow Male Dunesfolk naming conventions but I cant find one that doesn't sound silly. There are a couple of ideas I still have, but only a few repeating sounds don't sound silly. nana, nene(which is a female name base), zeze, sasa, tata(no breast reference here).