Padjal Naming Conventions?

[Skies]

besides the names...
they have more power than the playable 5 races?
All the npcs so far are only tied to conjurers/whm :O

Gotta remember that they are the 'chosen ones' of the elementals, know how much influence on the forest that is?

[Orophin]

Excellent post! It was nice to get some insight on their naming conventions, their ancestry and to see their influence in the naming of some of the landmarks in the Black Shroud.

[Catapult]

Ok, so this tells us that the padjal grow horns some time after birth (A variation on puberty?) and they first appeared in Eorzea after the first of the hyur migratory waves.

We also know that there is the "pact of Gelmorra" that the elemental Oha-Sok referred to.
...oh look, there's that hyphen! Padjal naming conventions in elemental names? Or is the language of the padjal the language of the elementals?

There are so many other things I'm tempted to discuss, but I'll leave my speculation there for now.

THANK YOU, FERNE!

[Yrusama]

I hope fern doesn't mind if I shamelessly regurgitate this on the FF wiki I'm still not certain about their policy on giving credit for lengthy quote pages, but at least I know the source in case it comes up

Edit: I hope nobody minds, but I took the liberty of assuming Padjal don't reproduce. That'd be just weird. So I don't want anyone making a character with Padjal parents in their backstory.

[Xeia]

Edit: I hope nobody minds, but I took the liberty of assuming Padjal don't reproduce. That'd be just weird. So I don't want anyone making a character with Padjal parents in their backstory.

I'm not sure which wiki you're posting on, but it's generally not a good idea to include assumptions. Source everything! ^^

[Yrusama]

I'm not sure which wiki you're posting on, but it's generally not a good idea to include assumptions. Source everything! ^^

lol, I know.

"If they are indeed ageless then it becomes unlikely that the Padjal themselves can ever reproduce, being biologically too young to be fertile."

I worded it as speculation in the Trivia section. I do what I can to not post anything unofficial as though it's fact.

Of course, if people don't like it they can edit it themselves. This is why I keep asking for help on the wiki. Even I make mistakes, and I'm going on a mass-editing spree once the NDA is fully lifted to correct all of the 1.0 data I can while I separate it with updated ARR data.

[Fleurette]

lol, I know.

"If they are indeed ageless then it becomes unlikely that the Padjal themselves can ever reproduce, being biologically too young to be fertile."

I worded it as speculation in the Trivia section. I do what I can to not post anything unofficial as though it's fact.

Of course, if people don't like it they can edit it themselves. This is why I keep asking for help on the wiki. Even I make mistakes, and I'm going on a mass-editing spree once the NDA is fully lifted to correct all of the 1.0 data I can while I separate it with updated ARR data.

Speculation aside, this is a really weird theory to me, because here's the thing: like Ferne said earlier in this thread, the three families which constantly produce Padjal are the Pesi/Yan/Senna families. So...assuming they are the only children of that family, they kind of would have to be able to reproduce to keep the family line going. If we go back maybe a few hundred years or so and maybe only one Senna was born, and that Senna was a Padjal, we would have to assume that that Padjal had kids; whether they grew horns and were blessed by the elementals is a different story because, as stated, it's pretty damn rare. So, unless O-App/E-Sumi/Kan-E and her siblings have other , Hyur siblings we don't know about to keep the family line going (that would be an interesting twist), that would be the only explanation to me...which, yeah, is a little creepy considering the only Padjal who even looks somewhat old enough to do that is Kan-E...so unless the elementals are giving them magical babies out of trees...it's pretty strange.

...Though, keep in mind, the Padjal are much older than they look, as E-Sumi states in both 1.0 and ARR, saying he has "seen many more summers" than you would first think. It makes me wonder what determines a Padjal's biological clock to stop--for example, the Sennas. Is Kan-E stuck at being the oldest-looking Padjal because she is the oldest of the siblings and the "Elder Seedseer"? Is Raya-O stuck as looking like the middle child and A-Ruhn the youngest? I never really knew so I always assumed the Sennas were the youngest Padjal...I felt like E-Sumi (who I'm assuming might be over 100) was actually older than Kan-E. They don't give us much history on her in the story aside from the Twin Adder blurb on the Lodestone, nor any of the Padjal-producing families in general. So I'm stuck with making my own crazy theories about how old they all really are...and that's a story for another day. :P

[finiteHP]

Speculation aside, this is a really weird theory to me, because here's the thing: like Ferne said earlier in this thread, the three families which constantly produce Padjal are the Pesi/Yan/Senna families. So...assuming they are the only children of that family, they kind of would have to be able to reproduce to keep the family line going. If we go back maybe a few hundred years or so and maybe only one Senna was born, and that Senna was a Padjal, we would have to assume that that Padjal had kids; whether they grew horns and were blessed by the elementals is a different story because, as stated, it's pretty damn rare. So, unless O-App/E-Sumi/Kan-E and her siblings have other , Hyur siblings we don't know about to keep the family line going (that would be an interesting twist), that would be the only explanation to me...which, yeah, is a little creepy considering the only Padjal who even looks somewhat old enough to do that is Kan-E...so unless the elementals are giving them magical babies out of trees...it's pretty strange.

...Though, keep in mind, the Padjal are much older than they look, as E-Sumi states in both 1.0 and ARR, saying he has "seen many more summers" than you would first think. It makes me wonder what determines a Padjal's biological clock to stop--for example, the Sennas. Is Kan-E stuck at being the oldest-looking Padjal because she is the oldest of the siblings and the "Elder Seedseer"? Is Raya-O stuck as looking like the middle child and A-Ruhn the youngest? I never really knew so I always assumed the Sennas were the youngest Padjal...I felt like E-Sumi (who I'm assuming might be over 100) was actually older than Kan-E. They don't give us much history on her in the story aside from the Twin Adder blurb on the Lodestone, nor any of the Padjal-producing families in general. So I'm stuck with making my own crazy theories about how old they all really are...and that's a story for another day. :P

I personally interpret "consistently (albeit rarely) produce Padjals" as meaning that while quite a few members of those families become Padjals, the majority do not. It is the normal Hyur members of the families that continue on the family line. There probably wouldn't be many instances where there is only one child in a generation, so the family could carry on. I'll use myself as an example. I am an only child. If I had become a padjal my parent's line would have ended. But I have 10 cousins on my father's side. As long as they didn't become padjal and had kids of their own the family would carry on.

[Yrusama]

Speculation aside, this is a really weird theory to me, because here's the thing: like Ferne said earlier in this thread, the three families which constantly produce Padjal are the Pesi/Yan/Senna families. So...assuming they are the only children of that family, they kind of would have to be able to reproduce to keep the family line going. If we go back maybe a few hundred years or so and maybe only one Senna was born, and that Senna was a Padjal, we would have to assume that that Padjal had kids; whether they grew horns and were blessed by the elementals is a different story because, as stated, it's pretty damn rare. So, unless O-App/E-Sumi/Kan-E and her siblings have other , Hyur siblings we don't know about to keep the family line going (that would be an interesting twist), that would be the only explanation to me...which, yeah, is a little creepy considering the only Padjal who even looks somewhat old enough to do that is Kan-E...so unless the elementals are giving them magical babies out of trees...it's pretty strange.

...Though, keep in mind, the Padjal are much older than they look, as E-Sumi states in both 1.0 and ARR, saying he has "seen many more summers" than you would first think. It makes me wonder what determines a Padjal's biological clock to stop--for example, the Sennas. Is Kan-E stuck at being the oldest-looking Padjal because she is the oldest of the siblings and the "Elder Seedseer"? Is Raya-O stuck as looking like the middle child and A-Ruhn the youngest? I never really knew so I always assumed the Sennas were the youngest Padjal...I felt like E-Sumi (who I'm assuming might be over 100) was actually older than Kan-E. They don't give us much history on her in the story aside from the Twin Adder blurb on the Lodestone, nor any of the Padjal-producing families in general. So I'm stuck with making my own crazy theories about how old they all really are...and that's a story for another day. :P

Not that it has much bearing on Eorzean culture, but I think there are laws in the US regarding relationships with adults who look like minors. If not, then at the very least it's socially awkward.

I agree with finiteHP, there is probably much more to the Padjal-producing line than is shown. My guess is that O-App Pesi, E-Sumi Yan and the Senna sisters are something like fourth cousins twice removed. We don't know their exact ages, so they could be from totally different generations.

[Enkidoh]

I presume he means this Wiki.

But yeah, I agree on posting things which are just assumptions or unsubstantiated there, as too many players use it as their 'source' for information.