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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    When did Allag rule Eorzea? The height of their power was over 5,000 years ago. They were probably all Elezen. Hell, it's possible that the Elezen rode out 5, maybe even 6, umbral eras alone.
    I refute your point sir engarde. I argue that the Elezen devolved from their predecessor race, the Alla-gans. But the Allag themselves were Lalafell before they fell from power hense fell. Alla over time changed into Lala, Alla rearranged and phonetically the same. Lala-fell =P

    If my hypothesis becomes true which i do not doubt! the Elezen will be unable to hide from the truth, that they are just overgrown Lalafell with elongated Dhamel necks making their heads ideal for predators to pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaltus View Post
    I refute your point sir engarde. I argue that the Elezen devolved from their predecessor race, the Alla-gans. But the Allag themselves were Lalafell before they fell from power hense fell. Alla over time changed into Lala, Alla rearranged and phonetically the same. Lala-fell =P

    If my hypothesis becomes true which i do not doubt! the Elezen will be unable to hide from the truth, that they are just overgrown Lalafell with elongated Dhamel necks making their heads ideal for predators to pick.
    I CONCUR. /lights pipe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I CONCUR. /lights pipe
    That would make us Hyurs an off-shoot halfway through the evolutionary line... I'll have none of this! *starts burning all trace of the notion*
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    I'll save you Yoshida!

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    No time for a WMD, so this firecracker will have to suffice until the loremaster and I can put together a complete post.

    FUN FACT: The 'middle names' of the Garelans who have appeared in XIV represent their relative position within the Empire's sociopolitical structure (including the Imperial Army).

    BREAK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    FUN FACT: The 'middle names' of the Garelans who have appeared in XIV represent their relative position within the Empire's sociopolitical structure (including the Imperial Army).
    Ok, I should have seen that one coming.

    "Two Vans are better than one" makes so much more sense now.

    Also, I wouldn't guess that the middle name is representative of rank, but more career. Van becomes millitary commander, where as Nan would be for engineers or inventors.
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    Well, van is used for the Generals of the Legions it seems. However Nael assumed the title of Deus (which means God, as someone has pointed out before) once he got all glowy from accepting power from Dalamud. I guess sol would be Emperor or ruler. Wonder what other titles there are...
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    Mm.

    Van must be in relation to the rank of Legatus. Sol, as you've mentioned, is probably exclusive to the emperor.

    There's also "nan". Like Midas nan Garlond, or Cid nan Garlond. I know Cid was named a minister after his father, and Midas was the Grand Minister of Industry if I'm not mistaken. So the "nan" prefix could possibly be in relation to the ministers.
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    Ahhh... now we see what Ferne may have been hinting at... so, in hierarcherial order it is possibly:
    • Zos - For the Imperial family
    • Van - For the top ranking Generals (and aristocrats?)
    • Nan - For Grand Ministers (also Ambassadors and high ranking political figures?)
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    I suppose this isn't 100% related to naming conventions, but I figure it's something I'd tack on here since it might have some influence on things.

    I've always wondered, do the Garleans have their own written and spoken language? It seems like something that they would have, but we as characters simply would have no idea because we have the Echo and can understand everyone anyways.

    It's never been mentioned in-game to my knowledge, either, so there's no telling there. If they do, I wonder what sort of accent they might have.

    We know what some Eorzean accents are like across various regions of the country, simply by the way text is conveyed and voice actors in certain cutscenes. I've always pictured the Garlean language might be something akin to a mix of German/latin with thick, heavy accents.
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    Considering that Eorzean looks like the handwritten English alphabet with kata/hira-style shifts, I'm betting the Garleans, Roman in nature all around, just use straight up LINGVA LATINA
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